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The Lord Chancellor moved, that the bill be re-commited on Monday. Ordered.
HIS MAJESTY'S MESSAGE. Lord Hobart presented the following message from his Majesty :
« GEORGE R. “ His Majesty thinks it proper to acquaint the House of Lords, that for the more effectual defence of the united kingdom against the avowed designs of the enemy, and for the purpose of providing such means as may be best calculated for a vigorous prosecution of the war, his Majesty deems it important that a large additional force should be forthwith raised and assembled.
“ His Majesty recommends this subject to the consideration of their Lordships, and relies with confidence on their zeal and public spirit, that they will adopt such measures as upon this occasion fall appear to them to be most effectual, and for carrying the same into execution with the least possible delay.
“ GR" Lord Hobart then moved, that his Majesty's message be taken into consideration on Monday next. Ordered.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
SATURDAY, JUNE 18. The Chancellor of the Exchequer delivered a message from his Majesty to the same purport as that presented to the House of Lords; which being read, he moved, that his Majesty's most gracious melTage should be referred to a Committee of the House on Monday next, which was agreed to nem. con.
A message from the Lords signified their Lordships' assent to the Northampton ordnance land bill, and the amendments in the malicious shooting and maiming bill. Deferred till Monday the second reading of the Scotch cotton manufacturers bill, and leave given to the petitioners against the bill to be heard by counsel. Ordered that the Scotch Highland road and bridge bill be printed.
On the question being put on the second reading of the tax on property bill,
Mr. Ferguson observed, that the bill, in his opinion, in. fringed the Act of Union with Scotland, as it was agreed by that act that no additional land-tax should be laid on that part of the united kingdom.
Sir Robert Buxton approved of the tax, as he expressed an opinion on a former occasion, that land ought not to be taxed without every other species of property was taxed also. Mr. W. Dundas said, the bill did not infringe the Act of
, Union ; if it did, he should be the first to raise his voice ayainst it. He contended, as did also the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that it was not a land-tax, but a tax derivable from property in land.
Mr. Kinnaird thought otherwise, and challenged the right hon. Gentleman to prove the difference between a land-iax and a tax derivable from land.
The bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday.
Mr. Alexander brought up the report of the Committee of supply on the army extraordinaries, which was agreed to. He also brought up the report of the Committee for granting an additional duty to his Majesty on exports and imports, which was ordered to be taken into furiher consideration on Monday.
The militia fubaltern officers' bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday.
The excise duły bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday.
The Irish indemnity bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday next; to which day the House adjourned.
HOUSE OF LORD S.
MONDAY, JUNE 20. The bills on the table were read a stage each. Three bills were brought up from the Commons, by Mr. Alexander and others, and read a first time.
DEFENCE OF THE NATION. · The order of the day was moved, for taking his Majesty's message into consideration.
Lord Hobart said, that in rifng to propose the order of the day, he did not think it necessary to occupy much of their Lordchips time in order to induce them to adopt the recommendation contained in his Majesty's message. He
was convinced, that whatever difference of opinion might arise as to the manner of acting on the address, there could be none with regard to the necetlity of following it up by such measures as were required by the present state of the country. He therefore deement in his duty, in consequence of the filuation he held, to throw out a general outline of the intentions of Government with respect to the object of the address, and the pledge he meant ii should contain. He was fure all their Lord'hips must feel the indi/pensible necessity of placing this country in such a situation, as not only to render it secure from the attack of the enemy, but also to render such an attempt so little likely to succeed, as to deter the enemy from carrying those designs into execution, which, it was evident, they had in contemplation. With respect to the plan itself, their Lordships would understand, that what he had to propose was nothing more than an ouiline. Much would depend on the variety of the measures that would occur to carry the plan into execution ; therefore, with respect to the detail, it was not his intention to enter inio it. He should state the outline, merely that their Lordships, might carry it in their minds, and be the better enabled indiscuss it when it was brought forward. Their Lordships wera aware how extremely essential it was, that the plan should be carried into effect with as much expedition as pofiible. A large and considerable force was necessary to be collected in this country for resisting the enemy; and he had no difficulty in ftating, that, on the part of the military, every exertion had been made, and was making, to increase the force of the regular army by every possible means; but it was apparent that those exertions could not have the effect of producing that force we wilhed to have stationed in the country. To produce such a force by ordinary means would be so difficult, that it was incumbent in his Majesty's Ministers to suggest extraordinary means, and he was sorry to say, that neceflity required those means should be of a compulsory nature. He should have much regretted if it had fallen to his lo: to have recommended a mealure which the country had never been accustomed to. He was sensible of the difficulty of obiaining so great a number of men as were required, without inconvenience to the industry of the country. Upon thar subject he had only to say, that, although the measure he should propose, would to a certain degree have the effe at of presling upon the industry of the country, yet it was triding compared to the danger of exposing the country to the consequences
which would result from not having recourse, to it. On the subject of invalion, he had no difficulty in saying, that, looking to the population and resources of the country, he was well assured ihat if we availed ourselves of them, we had nothing whatever to apprehend. In adverting to the effect of the measure, or the industry of the country, by taking away so many persons from labour, he did not conceive thut any inconvenience would be felt beyond what had been experienced at former periods. In the last war, there were raised for the militia 114,386 men, including Scotland. The num'ber of men now railed for the established and supplementary militia, amounted to 72,963 men, to which it was proposed by the present plan to add 40,000 for Great Britain: this would make the whole force for this country amount to 112,963 men, being 1,423 less than during she last war. With respect to the measure itself, it was ihe intention of his Majesty's Ministers, that the army to be raised Mould consist of 40.000 men for Great Britain, and the islands of The Channel (Guernsey and Jersey), and 10,000 for Ireland. The service of the troops to be reciprocal, those raised in Englad to serve in Ireland, and those raised in Ireland to serve Me England. Upon the subject of finding officers for these corps, he would itate what was in contemplation of his Majesty's Ministers. It was proposed that they fhould be persons who had held army rank, and had served either in the fencible corps, or in the East India Company's fervice. By this there would be at once adopted an effectual means of finding officers. From what he had said, their Lordships would understand, that it was intended the men Thould be raised, on the principle of the militia, by ballot, and that they should be taken out of the counties and districts, with the addition of such volunteers as thought proper to offer their services, and enrolled for Great Britain, Ireland, and the islands in the Channel. The age of the persons to be raised, to be from 18 to 45. Their Lordships would perceive that there was nothing in any act of Parliament under which men were raised for the militia, to prevent their entering into the regular army : they were at liberty to do 1o if they pleased. The measure would therefore operate as a means of increasing the disposable force of the country. It was unnecellany for him to state, with respect to a disporable force, that although the one proposed to be raised was not of that description, yet when it should have been forined, which he truited it speedily would be, it would be found
available for all the purposes of internal defence and protec. rion. He did not state yhis as a pian with regard to which he was not convinced there were many objections. He had only to say, that after mature consideration, and after conSuliing with those beit able to give those opinions which mighi be relied on, he thought it a measure most likely to effect what their Lord'hips had in view. If any of their Lordships could suggest a plan more likely to be attended with beneficial results, there would be every Jil position on the part of his Majesty's Ministers to receive it. The one he had proposed was the only plan his Majesty's Minitters were enabled to suggest, and he trusted they would have the fupport of their Lordips in any bill they might think it right to bring forward. Having thus far opened the plan, he should move, that an humble address should be presented to his Majesty, to return him thanks for his most gracious metrage, and to assure him that this House was impelled, by every consideration, readily to concur with his Majesty in such measures as were belt calcuated for the security of the kingdom, and the prosecution of the war.
The Duke of Clarence said, he had listened with the greatest attention to the noble Lord. It was impossible for him, as a Member of the House of Lords, and residing in the metropolis, not to have heard something of the nature of the proposition for the defence of the country. He could not ap: prove of the principle even of the general outline of what the noble Secretary of State had proposed; but he candidly owned, that the outline was less obje&ionable than what the public at large had reason to expect. The noble Secretary of State had said, he was desirous of collecting il different opinions of their Lordthips, with refpect to measures of offensive or defensive operations, and it was, therefore, he thought it his duty to address them. He conceived that when the act of Parliament relative to the miliria pafld this time i welvemonth, the situation of the country was more critical than at present. The country was now entering upon a war with perfect unanimity. Every one was convinced of its justice. It was not Mulia that was the cause of the war; it was the reitless and arrogant spirit of the ryrant that governed France, that had forled us to go to war, It behoved all who entertained a respect and veneration for the laws and constitution, which had been harded duwn by our ancestors, to meet the danger with courage and intrepidity. His Royal Highness re-stated the plan proposed by the