Abbildungen der Seite

enter into any detail upon this subjeđ now. If, however, the war fhould continue, it would be for him to confider, on a future day, what would be the best for the interest of Ireland to propose, if he should then have the honour of filling ihe office he now held; upon tfiat'occasion, he should hope for the allistance of the Gentlemen of that country. He would not now trespass any longer upon the attention of the Committee, but after thanking ihem for the indulgence they had shewn him, he thould conclude with moving his selo. lutions.

Mr. Lee did not mean to oppose the resolutions; he thought that great exertions ought to be made in order to meet the pressure of the moment, that the debt of Ireland might not be increasing while that of England was either decreasing or stationary, because whenever it bore to the debt of England the proportion of 2.10 17, then Ireland was to be taxed in common with England, which the could not now bear.

Mr. W. Smith, after paying 'several compliments to Mr. Corry, for the cléarness and accuracy of his statement, hoped he would not propose a tax upon income, which he considered as so objectionable. ** Mr. Corry, in reply to Mr. Lee, stated the reasons why he had not proposed any strong measure of finance for Ireland this feffion. Ireland might not yet, perhaps, be'inclined to bear great bordens to meet the exigence of the moment, though he was sure that would be the wiselt plan. Besides, there were no immediate means to enable him to bring forb ward such a measure. There was no land tax in Ireland, no poor rate, no system of municipal finance, if he might so express himself, from which he could draw any aid, or out of which he could form any system ; unless it were of the grand juries, or of the parish vestties for parish purposes of very small amount. When these circumstances were taken into consideration, and that the war had not lafted above four weeks, it was not extraordinary that he had not prepared a more extensive system. If the tax upon property should be adopted it would have one recominendation, that the absentees would be compelled to contribute. The abie sentee landlords and mortgagees would be forced to beat their share in the burden. He hoped that Parliament would also lay their hands upon those drones, the middle men, who preyed at once upon the proprietor and the occupier, and


who were of no benefit to the State in any shape, or charader.

Mr. Hawkins Browne, alluding to what Mr. Smith had faid, remarked tha: it was wrong to proscribe any tax, so productive as that on psperty might be, merely by infinuations. He approved the principle of the income tax as a war lax. ,

Mr. Dennis Browne doubled whether the tax on fpirits would be productive, as he new duty would give so much templation to muggling. He was of opinion that the middleinen allded to, formed a class originating in different circumstances, and likely to be extinct ; for on the expiring of the old leases, the landlord would not allow the middleman to devour the occupier, but would receive his rent from the latter at once. In his county the abolition of the middlemen had been attended with general, and rapid improvement.

Alluding to the state of Ireland, which he had left lately, he faid that it was such as every loyal mind could wish, and if the French were to land there, he was confident they would experience as stiff a resistance from the population of Ireland, as from that of any part of the empire.

Sir Marcus Somerville, wilhed to know whether Ministers, while they talked of laying such new, burdens on the people of Ireland, intended to do any thing for that numerous and refpetable body, the catholics?

Mr. Dawson în general approved of, the taxes; but he doubted whether Ireland could pay a property tax..

Colonel Bagwell thought that the manufacture of spirits should be discouraged, and the brewery encouraged.

A number of Irish accounts, were moved for by Mr. Wick. ham and Mr. Odell..

INCOME TAX. Mr. Vanfittart moved, that the House resolve itself into a Committee upon the bill laying a duty on the profits of pro- . perty, pensions, &c.

Mr. William Smith said, that he role on the present occa.. fion merely to state, that he should take another opportunity of opposing a tax which he considered in its nature so oppresfive and vexatious as that now proposed, and which he believed no modification could render fit to be adopied. In consequence of the candid manner in which this measure was conducted through the House, a candour on the part of


Ministers, which it was the duty and the policy of the House to encourage, he should reserve himself for a future opportunity, as he understood the bill was to be printed. He took occasion to reply to the observation of Mr. Hawkins Browne, that no tax should, at such a moment, be proscribed. He said, that he was so convinced that any tax like the present must be odious to the public at large, and must tend to render tiem dissatisfied with the war they might even consider jult and necessary, that with a view to calling forth the spirit and resources of the nation effectually, he should consider the income tax, however modified, as extremely detrimental to the public.

Mr. H. Browne explained. Mr. Vanfittart, in moving to go into the Committee, requested Gentlemen to keep their minds impartial-not to allow themselves to be milled by comparing the present, with any tax upon a limilar principle or of a limnilar name. He begged them to wait till the measure appeared in a proper 1hape.

The bill then went through the Committee pro forma, the House was resumed, the report was brought up, agreed to, ordered to be further considered that day se'nnight, and the bill to be printed.

The bill for regulating the corn trade between England and Ireland was committed.

The bill for granting 20,000l. for making roads, bridges, &c. in the Highlands of Scotland, was read a second time, and ordered to be committed the next day.

The Irish militia transfer bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed the next day.

Mr. Vanfittart brought up a bill for granting to his Majesty certain duties on the profits of professions, on money in the funds, &c. &c. which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time the next day.

On the motion of Mr. Wickham, the bill for more effectually preventing combinations among workmen in Ireland was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time the next day.

The militia officers' provision bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time the next day.

The other orders of the day were then deferred, and the House adjourned. VOL. IV. 1802-3.


[ocr errors]


The bills on the table were each forwarded a stage.

The bribery oath bill, and feveral private bills, were brought up from the Commons, read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time.

Several witnefles were sworn at the bar, after which the Houfe adjourned.


TUESDAY, JUNE 21. Mr. Dundas brought up a bill for bettering the situation of the poor, and for affording them employment, and likewife for the purpose of paying off the debts which may be incurred in erecting poor houses, &c. which bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time the next dav.

The Houfe refolved into a Conimittee to consider the southern whale fishery bill, Sir Robert Buxton in the chair. On the House resuming, the report was received, and a bil! ordered to be prepared, and brought in agreeably to the resolutions therein contained.

A meslage from the Lords informed the House, that their Lordfhips had agreed to several bills, and among others to the ships' burning bill, to which they had fuggested several amendments, and defired the concurrence of the House. The amendments were read over and agreed to, and the bill, with the amendments, ordered to be printed.

Mr. Hiley Addington presented a petition from the fishermen of Harwich, praying to be heard against the proposed fishing company's bill, which petition was ordered to be laid before the Committee to whom that bill was committed.

Á fimilar petition was presented from the town of Barking, in the county of Effex, which was ordered to lie on the table.

The Committee of the whole House on the Irish revenue bill was postponed till Thursday next.

Counsel was heard at the bar in opposition to the St. James's workhouse bill, and after several Members had spoken for and against it, the bill was rejected.


Mr. Calcraft moyed, that there be laid before the House, for the information of the Members, previous to the report beiag presented from the Committee on the East India shipping bill, an account of the number of East India ships at present in the service, specifying the names, tonnage, and number of feet of water of each. Ordered.

The report of the Committee of ways and means was read a second time, the resolutions thereof were severally agreed to, and a bill or bills ordered to be brought in according thereto.

Sir William Pulteney moved, that a Committee be appointed to consider the propriety of erecting a light house on the Bell or Cape Rock, near the Frith of Forth, on the east coast of Scotland. He stated to the House his sentiments "Telative to the necessity of such a measure being adopted, as this rock was a very high and most dangerous rock to maTiners, and he said '

many accidents had already been expe- . rienced from the want of a light house at that place.

Mr. Alexander presented a report of the Committee on the Irish corn importation and exportation bill, which bill was ordered to be ingroffed.

The Houfe went into a Committee on the bill for improving the port of London. The House resumed, and the report was ordered to be received the next day.

Mr. Alexander presented the report of the Committee on the Irish qualification bill, as also the report of the militia subaltern officer's bill. The amendments propofed in these reports were severally agreed to, the bitls read a second time, and ordered to be read a third time the next day, and to be engrossed.

Mr. Secretary at War moved, that the further confideration of the militia pay bill be postponed to Friday next,

The bill for granting a certain allowance to adjutants and serjeant majors in the militia, was ordered to be committed to a Committee of the whole House on Friday next.

The House resolved into a Committee on the medicine duty act, Mr. Alexander in the Chair.

Mr. Alderman Coombe and the Lord Mayor offered fome amendments, which they conceived to be necessary, to protect the regular apothecaries and druggists againft vexatious informations for felling compositions of their refpective me. dicines, which might expose them to the ' liability of informations from common informers. Oo?


« ZurückWeiter »