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troops would evacuate Holland; but on the 12th that expees tation was discouraged. The French Government expressed a with that the troups destined for Louisiana might continue Cuine time longer in the Batavian territories; with which wish the Batavian Government seemed disposed to comply ; for they hinted a desire that we thould torbear to interpose in their behalf. On the subject of the Cape of Good Hope, much, Sir, had been laid, and more value has been aliached to that poilellion ihan, perhaps, it deserves. In my opinion it is of much less value than other poffeffions which his Majelly's Ministers were anxious to retain ; and in this opinion I have been confirmed by the concurrence of those who are best qualified to decide upon that question. Besides, the se. fainiig of it would involve a large expence; for during the ume we were in poffeffion of it, that cxpence amounted to no less than two million. Whatever its value might be estie mated a: by others, I could neyer bring myself to inagine that we thould forego for its fake the chance of retaining more valuable pollellions. The right hon, Gentleman, in speaking of Malia, seemed to suppose that an engagement respecting it had been entered into with Rullia; no such en, gagement had taken place, nor any thing approaching to it, Previous to the conclusion of the preliminarics, a communi cation had been made to the Ruflian Government of the heads of the arrangement respecting Malta : and then no objedion was made to the arrangement, except to that part which related to a Maltese Langue. We afterwards, indeed, agreed to adopt the Russian mode of electing the grand maí. ter, and hopes were given by Lord St. Helen's That Russia would on her part consent to grant her guarantee, but these hopes were afterwards disappointed. But with respect in any other engagement, I may again repeat it, that there was none, and consequently there was no breach of faiih on our part with respect io Rusia. The sight hon. Gentleman is also pleased to complain of the infulis and indignities of fered 10 this country by the French Government; and of their disregard of our remonstrances against them, which, in his mind, is a sufficient ground for war. Whether they. have properly remonftrated against it or noi, is amply shewn by the papers now on ihe table: but that the disregard of such remontirances is an adequate cause of war, I cannot bring myself to agree with the right hon. Gentleman: Such disregard may indeed afford just ground of jealousy, of com. plaint and remonftrance, but not of war, as a variety of ex:


amples mighi abundantly prove; at least prudence and expe- . diency would not advise it to be held in that light. With segard to the commercial commiilioners, and the intention with wivich it appeared that they were sent into the British dofnini ins, my pable Friend has remonstrated in the most fpirited terms, and the received a disavowal of the purpose for which they were supposed to be intended. But my noble Friend did not ftop here; as soon as all hopes had vanished of concluding a com inercial truary, Government refused to recognize ihem, and they were instructed io remove from the country. The only one of them who allempled to see main, was fent away from Jersey, by virtue of an order from the Secretary of Sare's i ffice; and an intimation was fent to Gựneral Andreofli, ibat unless they all withdrew, force would be employed to compel them. Will it now be contended thai no remonftrances have been made again it the infults and injuries offered 10 the country by the French Government, or that they have been all disregarded? I venture indeed to hope, that if more energetic measures have not been puitfued, the House will make due allowance for the difficulties jo' which Ministers were placed. Ministers anxie ously wished to preserve peace, but notwithstanding that, anxiety; the honour of the country was never committed, as the docuřents on the table will abundantly prove. They willexhibit, indeed, trong marks of forbearance, but not one of unbecoming weakness. While there remained a hope of peace no communication was made to Parliament, because it was thought, and I think justly, that such communications would frustrate raiher than promote the attainment of the desirable object.' What ihe conduct of Ministers has been throughout, I hope, Sir, that the House have now before them full and ample communications, and if a single document be wanting, by the help of which the conduct of Minis; flers may be beiter elucidated, they thall feel it their dury to the House 10 furnith it without delay. In my own and their i name I am now ready to say, Sir, that in whatever light they may be induced to behold their conduct, Ministers are ready to meet their decision. We only call for a decision; we do not venture' lo ask for approbation: we are anxious, however, to escape censuremifii be merired, we submissively acquiesce in the sentence of the House: but if it be unmerited, let out mirds be relieved from the charges which the resolutions now proposed liang over 'vs,' and let them go une's fettered to the discharge of those arduous doties of which


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they are delitous to acqóit thein felves with zeal, dillgerice; and fidelity. Let us know that we do not go forth in the eyes of the country branded with the stigma of the displeas fure of the House; or, if we have unfortunately incurred their difapprobation, let it be proved by a direct charge; if the House say the charge is not founded, our gratitude will be unbounded if they say it is, we thall bow to the decilion with the consciousness of having exerted our best endeavours to deferve a better fare.

Mr Pilt then rose, and spoke to the following efteå :With the view, Sir, than entertain of the prefent question, I feel a confiderable difficulty to give a decided opinion, and the more efpecially so, after the manly appeal of the right hon. Gentleman who has just sat down, to the positive deci. lion of the Houfe. If, Sir, I was prepared to give it in the ample manner called for, I thould certainly do so according to the direction of my conscience. If, on the contrary, was to give it according to the opinion of the right hon: Gentleman who spoke lant but one, and that I thould be induced to address his Majesty for the removal of his present Ministers, I hope I should be as ready to make a facrifice of any personal delings as any vither Member of this House If, on the other hand: I could feel as the right hón: Gen sleman on the floor (Mr. Addington feels, that the declara: tion made by his Majesty's Ministers is, throughout all its beatings, so clear and decifive, as to draw forth that unqualis fied approbation they seem to deinand, "I thould nor hesitate to deliver that fenriment with all the freedom which the ped culiar nature of the case requires. If in a case of such diffia cally, I could see the marret fo clearly as to have no doubt, I thould then say it is a title to approbation. But to that extent, 'Sir, I cannot concur with the proposirions; nor ami I prepared to agree with the express negative proposed to be pin on them. The reason, Sir, for my prefent difficulty, in the choice of we course I am to pursue on the presene occasion, is founded in the broad and genetal obje&tion I have ever entertained in the very nature and dextear of such motions. I am one of those, Sir, who do not with, without fome very strong and urgent reafon, to interfere with the just prerogative of the Crown, and I cannot conceive a cafe that is more pregnant with mischievous consequences than to adopt any measure that may render it unavoidable to difplace those whom his Majesty wilhes to employ and to retain Vol. IV. 1802-3



in his Councils. In a case of such high and weighty import-
ance, Sir, it becomes necessary to take a more extenfive
view of the question, than merely to confine our thoughts to
the propositions themselves, and to look forward to their
probable effects on the public safety and conveniency. In
this statement of the case, Sir, Gentlemen will see that it
will admit of various gradations, and of many different bear-
ings. I beg leave to put it to the House, Sir, that there
may be points within the condu&t of Ministers with which
the majority of the House may feel themselves dissatisfied ;
yet it behoves the House seriously and deliberately to confi-
der, whether, at a crisis like the present, it would not be most
for the public service to provide ample sources for our finan.
ces; for our national armaments, 1 and for the various
branches of our unavoidable expenditure, than to enter upon
a question, the effects of which may be attended with con-
fequences which none can foresee. To displace an admini,
ftration at such a moment, is not the work of a day, or of
an hour; and it is highly important for the House to reflect
on the interval that it may produce, with an Executive
Government interrupted and deprived of its efficient means
of condu&ting its most essential concerns. Nothing, Sir, in
my mind can justify a measure of such a magnitude at such a
moment, and in such a situation as the country is at present
placed in, but absolute neceflity; and even in that case, un.
less that neceffity be as strong and paramount as the hon.
Gentleman who introduced the motion thinks it, I would
strenuously advise the House to pause before it suffers itself to
entertain a measure, the result of which must be to divest his
Majesty of his whole Administration; for certainly the next
step to adopting the propositious must be, to address his Ma,
jelty to dismiss his Ministers. But, Sir, I say, this is a
question that does not rest with the House, but with the
Crown, to decide: and I leave it to the House, whether it
would not, in the case of his Majesty, place him in such a pre-
dicament, as that he should be induced to suppose the House
wilhed to deprive him for a moment of the inherent right he
possesses of chusing and appointing his confidential advisers ;
and I ask those Gentlemen, whose fituations and talents may
render them the most likely to succeed the present Ministers,
supposing his Majesty should be induced to part with them,
whether they could accept appointments under such circum-
ftances, without having their feelings wounded in a manner
that could not fail to be irksome and disagreeable to them


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Sir, there are many confiderations which weigh deeply on my mind on the present occasion-confiderations for the pub, lic safery-conlideration's Yor' the general and multiplied in terefts, which, at such a momentous crisis as the present, demand to be tooked to with the most scrupulous attention, and the molt fcrutinizing eye. I do feel, Sit, that the situa tion of the right hon. Gentleman who spoke last is a very frkfome one, but I must sacrifice those feelings to a sense of public dury. If there be any who entertain the same feel. ings áś myself, who do not go the whole lengih of the charges, bur who think there are circumstances which 'extehuate the blame they would otherwise attach to the conduct of Ministers, such must be guided by their judgment and their consciences, and cannot vote that in all its parts their condi&'has been culpable. And if there are those who think the conduct of Ministers has been the reverse of what I have just stated, such will unquestionably vote for the resolutions propoled. For my own pari, Sir, I will not at preseni enter into any particulars, because I sincerely deprecate all such discussions. If a certain portion of good is not to be obtained by any 'measurc'which is comparable to the mit. chief it may occasion, we should not lose a moment to enter "upon the question, and to decide it at once. But, sir, 1 cannot help thinking that if we were instantly to enter upon a plan of enabling his Majesty to carry into immediate effect those aaive and vigorous measures which may be necessary for the general welfare and security of the country--if we were to grant him a bill of supply for completing the ranks of our armies and other necessary establishments--which may give the most effective energy to the operations it may be useful for us to carry on by sea and on land-these are objects by which we shall sooner convince his Majesty of our love and regard for his person, and our attachmeát to, and anxiety for, the honour and dignity of his Crown, and the general welfare and profperity of the nation, ihan by defiring him to dismi's his Ministers, and the wing a want of confidence in the fe io whom he has entrusted the rule and guidance of his l xecutive Government. '. These are the sentiments which I feel, and therefore, without entering further' into the motives for doing so, I shall conclude by moving that ihe other orders of the day'be now read.”' Lord Hawkesbury rose, evidently under considerable ag

agifation. He said, that never before had' he sisen in Parlia

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