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Dr. Laurence contended, that the bill was necessary vpon the evidence of ihe petitioners themselves. He argued, that in a commercial country, the use of machinery was necessary. Their own evidence proved, that the use of inachinery rendered the manufactures cheaper. It was by the adoption of such machines the woollen manufacture of this country had arrived at its present height. It was neceffarv the state of enmity and irritation which pervaded this branch of our manufactures should be put an end to, by the Legislature putting an end to the laws which referred to a period when it was in its infancy. He referred to a pamphlet and a letter, which had been transmitted to him by the petitioners, the contents of which he conceived disrefpcctful towards the House, and generally supported the bill.
Mr. Sheridan said, he did not rise to enter into the merits of the question, such arguments had been used on both sides. Something had fallen from the learned Gentleman, which was rather injurious to the petitioners. He had stated, that his intention had been first called to the subje& by a pamphlet and a letter. Now the petitioners had also sent him the same pamphlet; it was a common practice for persons concerned in bills before the House to do so, and was perfectly right. The letter contained nothing more than a complaint that the House was going to pass the bill without knowing precisely the question. The evidence taken before the Committee had been ordered to be printed, and before a man in the House had seen a page of it, the bill was proposed 10 pass. These petitioners had a right to state their disapprobation of a proceeding they considered precipitate. The learned Gentleman had said, that all he knew of the subject was froin the evidence, consequently if he had not had an opportunity of seeing the evidence before the bill palled, the House would kave lost the benefit of his speech.
Mr. Bragge said, there was no occasion to add arguments to those which had not been answered ; nor was it necessary to enter into details of that which lay in a narrow coinpass.' This bill did no more than repeal the statute of Henry VI. selaring to a machine, which was supposed no longer to exist-he meant the gig-mill, to which that ftature referred. I had been proved before a jury ar Salisbury, and a very able judge, that the gig-mill meant by that ftatuie was our of ufce person had been indicted for using a gig-mill, and had been acquitted.
The ftatuie did not relate to machines in general. "The gig-machine was scarcely used in Glouces
tershire, very little in Yorkshire, and principally in Wiltthire and Somersetshire. He was er opinion the House could not do better than país the act in its present ttate. It would not prevent discussing the subject in the ensuing Parliament. Enough had been said to sanction the present measure, and ihe House was not pledging itself to the making it peTennial.
Mr. Sheridan asked, whether, when the bill paffed, it was intended to preclude the adoption of a resolution for reviving the subject next session.
Mr. Bragge said, he should be sorry to pledge himself. He did not wish to make it a condition, but he was not aware that there would be any objection to reviving the subject next session, if any hon. Gentleman gave notice of a motion 19 that effect.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer subscribed to all the fen. timents of his right hon, Friend, but he could not consent to what had been suggested by an hon. Genileman (Mr. Sheridan). The House never passed a resolution after a bill so definitive. Ils discretion ought not to be fettered, nor would it commit itself with a declaration upon the fubject. It was of importance to guard against the disquiet and irritation, which, in manufacturing towns, would be produced rather than allayed, by suffering the question to continue unsettled. He altogether objected to such a resolution. It was of the utmost importance the workmen should be convinced, that it was not by turbulence, disturbance, or cabal, this House would be influenced. The House would ever be actuated by a disposition to redress their grievances, but they ought to understand, that such a disposition would not be quickened by any conduct which is inconsistent with their duty to their malters. He gave his consent to the bill, but he did not consider himself committed to an definitive ar. rangement.
Mr. Wilberforce justified the conduct of the workmen of the county of York.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, his observations did not apply to Yorkshire, but to ihe Western counties.
After a few observations from Mr. Lascelles, strangers were ordered to withdraw, but the bill was read a third time and passed withoui a division.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY, The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, it would be recollected, that, in staring the ways and means, he had given norice of his intention to move for 5,000,000l. of exchequer bills, to replace those which were raised last year, and charged on the supplies of the present year.
He moved that the sum of 5,000,000l. should be granted to his Majesty, to enable him to discharge the exchequer bills made out by virtue of an act of last sellion, for the fervice of the year.
He also moved a grant of 16,000l. for repairing the forts on the coast of Africa.
Also, 12,000l. for sums granted in consequence of addresses.
Also, 171,4311. 11s. id. for sums in the disposition paper.
The report was ordered to be read the next day, and the Committee ordered to fit again on Monday.
The House went into a Committee of ways and means, in which the Chancellor of the Exchequer moved the fums voted in the Committee of supply.
The report was ordered to be read the next day, and the Committee was ordered to fit again on Monday,
SCOTCH ARMY OF RESERVE. The Secretary at War moved the third reading of this bill.
Mr. Charles Grant wished to know upon what scale the Secretary had calculated the proportions for the counties of Scotland.
The Secretary at War replied, 'that at first the proportion was calculated at 34 for icoo of the population of the country; but after consulting with very able inen who had aflisted in forming the tables of population, the old calculations were found to be very imperfect, and the conclusion was, that 84 10 2,000 Mould be the average: but on account of the incorrect returns in some counties, there should be added to the average of 84 a number not exceeding 16; and in other counties, a number should be taken of the average, not exceeding 16.
Mr. Grant said a few words in explanation.
Mr. M Dowell was for the bill being adopted exactly as ir stood, because the men might in that case be raised immediately ; but if the change which had been proposed should Vol. IV. 1802-3.
be agreed to, a considerable time would be lost, from the necessity of making new lists.
Mr. Kinnaird was glad to see that the local circumstances, habits, or even prejudices of his countrymen had been attended to by the Secretary at War. This, he thought, was much better than endeavouring too much to assimilate the regulations for raising the militia in bo h countries. The bill was then passed
IRISH VOLUNTEERS. Mr. Wickham gave notice, that on Monday he should move the House to resolve into a Committee, in order to propose to bring in a bill for empowering the Lords Lieutenanıs of counties in Ireland, to issue warrants to deputy lieutenants for the inrolment of volunteers.
IRISH DISTILLERY. The House resolved into a Commitree on the acts of the Irish Parliament of the 371h, 40th, 42d, and 43d, of George III. relative to the distillery.
Mr. Corry ftáted, that these were a&ts merely for the collection of the revenue, and imposed no dury; but they would expire on the 27th of September next.
After a few words from Mr. Lee, the Committee refolved that the said acts should be continued and amended.
A petition was brought up from the prisoners confined in the King's Bench prison, praying relief. Ordered to be laid on the table.
The Irish small note bill was read a second time, and or. dered to be read a third time next day.
A message from the Lords stated the affent of their LordThips to two private bills.
The Irish inilitia pay-bill was ordered to be read a third time next day.
The Lottery bill was ordered to be taken into further conlideration next day.
The Irish duty bill was ordered to be taken into confideration on Monday following.
The Exeter road bill pafled. --Adjourned.
HOUSE OF LORDS.
SATURDAY, JULY 2. The army of reserve bill was read the second time without any debate, and committed for Monday.
The militia officers augmentation bill, the excise duty regulation bill, the addition excise duty bill, &c. were read the third time and passed. Ordered to the Commons.
Brought up from the Commons the additional Scotch army bill, the woollen manufacture bill, the southern whale fishery bill, the new clergy residence bill, which were read a firit time.
Several petitions against the woollen manufacture bill were received, and leave was given to the petitioners to be heard by their coumsel against it.
Ordered, on the motion of the Lord Chancellor, that a message be sent to the Commons, requesting them to communicate a copy of the evidence upon which they passed the bill. Adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
SATURDAY, JULY 2. Mr. Il’ickham rose to propose a measure for the relief of militia men's families in Ireland, while the men were absent on duty. The reason why he had not sooner brought it forward on the Lime footing as a similar provision in England, was, that the same class of civil officers for carrying it into effe at did not exist in Ireland. By this bill, it was intended, in order to prevent fraud upon the public bounty, that no person claiming as the wife or child of a militia man should be intitled to such, without producing a certificate from the Colonel of the reginent, that the militia-man, whether ballotted, a volunteer, or a substitute, declared upon oath foch persons to be his wife or child, at the time of his attertalion. He then moved for and obiained leave to bring in the bill.
Sir H. Mild may wished to know from the Chancellor of the Exchequer, if Tuesday next was not the day for the debate on the income tax.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer answered, that it was the object to consolidate the income and land iax bills into one; he should on Tuesday move pro forma, that the House sefolve itself into a Committee, with previous instructions to consolidate both bills, and in this form the bill to be reprinted, and debated on the Monday following.
Mr. Ballard wished to know from the right hon. Gentle man, if the tax on land was meant as a lax upon the net income, or one upon the value of the land.
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