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been deserted by their parents in workhouses; and there were not wanting examples that even such children might he better managed than they were by the parishes. Another object he had in view, was to ascertain the number and situation of the friendly focieties in this country. Wherever there were friendly focieties, a great proportion of the poor were maintainca by themselves. The money thus raised was laid out in the most advantageous manner for the state, as it was almost always invested in the public funds. Five or 600,0001. of stock belong to the labouring poor of this country. It was his opinion that those focieties should be entitled to fome affistance from the parishes in confequence of their preventing so great a proportion of the poor from becoming a burthen upon the rates.' The money fupplied by the parishes he would propose thould be laid up by the focieties to form a fupplementary fund for the fupport of their aged menibers ; from which a man, whose earrings in old age fell thort of what he used to receive in the meridian of life, might have the deficiency supplied. If a man had been accustomed to earn 10s. 6d. and now received only 8s. or 9s. a weck, he should be allowed 2s, or 1s.6d. from this fund. He concluded by moving that leave be given to bring in a bill for procuring returns relative to the expence and maintenance of the poor of England,

EAST INDIA DOCKS. The East India docks bill was commilied.

Mr. Calcraft proposed a clause for limiting the powers granted under the bill to 21 years. After some convertarion this clause was adopted, and the report of the Committee was ordered to be received next day.

INFERIOR CLERGY. Mr. Buxton rose to move for leave to bring in a bill for the relief of the inferior clergy. The object of the bill would be to give, or rather restore to the Commissioners of Queen Anne's bounty the power of augmenting the revenues of poor curates, and to open a door to private benevolence for that purpose: this was the original intention of the act of Queen Anne, and such was its operation until it was altered by the act of the 9th of George II. The statute of Queen Anne, after the appropriation of the first fruits, invites her Majesty's subjcets to follow her example by will or deed. The number of livings under fifty pounds a year, be was well informned, was nearly fix thousand. This charity, therefore, stood as much in need of private aid as any other, In the debate on the clergy residence bill, the Chancellor


of the Exchequer had expressed his wish that something Thould be done for the relief of the poor clergy, even in the present session; but considering the burthens which it was necessary to impose for the defence of the country, he thought it would be better to retort to private benevolence, than to any public meature for that purpose. Impressed by this fentiment, be moved, that leave be given to bring in a bill for rendering more effectual certain acts of the 2d and 3d of Queen Anne, for maintaining poor clergymen. Leave given.

WAYS AND MEANS. The House refolved into a Committee of ways and means, in which Mr. Corry called to the recollection of the House what he had stated, on Saturday, respecting the Irish loan. In cale it should be found that the one inillion, which was the proportion of the loan for Ireland, could not, from the circumstances of that country, be borrowed with advantage, it was thouglit adviseable, that the Lord Lieutenant should have the power of raising the fame sumn by loans on treasury bills. These bills were precisely the same as exchequer bills in this country. He moved a resolution for raising one million in this manner, which was agreed to, and the report ordered be made the next day.

An account was presented of the amount of the salaries and emoluments in the several public offices in Ireland. Ordered to be laid upon the table.

A message from the Lords informed the House their Lordflips had agreed to the additional excise duties' bill. Their Lordfhips also requested a copy of the minutes of the evidence on the woollen clothiers' bill.

Sir William Pulteney observed, that the Committee upon the petition for ereding a light-house on Bell Rock bad reported, that it was their opinion the same 1hould be erected. He therefore moved for leave to bring in a bill to carry the resolution into effect.

Mr. Speaker lubmitted, that as the House had ordered the report to be printed, and it had not yet been delivered, it would be better to postpone the motion till after it had been printed.

The report of the additional army of Ireland bill was received, and ordered to be re-committed for Wednesday.

Mr. Wickham gave notice, that he should the next day move for leave to bring in a bill to enable the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to raise volunteers for the additional army of Ireland.


The House went into a Committee on the Irish faltpetre duty bill, and the report ordered to be received the next day.

Mr. Vanfittart brought up the five million loan bill, which was read a firit, and ordered to be read a second time the next day.



TUESDAY, JULY 5. The excise laws bill, the Birmingham church bill, and the Widmore drainage bill, received the royal afsent by commission. The commissioners were, the Lord Cliancellor, Lord Walfingham, and Lord Alvanley.

The bills on the table were read a third time.
There were several second readings of bills.

This bill passed the Committee, and also two others.

The Earl of Suffolk faid, he found the clergy farming and residence bill had passed the Committee. He muft fay, it did not come up to the idea which he had expected, in regard to creating the better provision for the inferior clergy. He had on a former day fuggested one mode of creating a real additional income, viz. by all the beneficed clergy contributing an actual tenth or firft fruits, to be taken in aid of Queen Anne's bounty. He had heard, that a measure was in conteniplation in the other House of Parliament; he hoped it was not the repeal of one of the moft beneficial acts of Parliament that ever had passed (we presume his Lordship meant the Mortmain Act). The noble Earl added, that he had anxiously felt the necessity of making fome better provision for the inferior clergy, and had hoped, before providing for granting licences for the non-residence of the beneficed clergy, the present bill, which had just pafled the Committee, would have begun with enacting fome mode of provision for the inferior clergy.

The Lord Chancellor said, the present bill had not done what the noble Earl so anxiously wished, under the belief that another bill, formed with a view to the object of the noble Earl's anxiety, was in contemplation, and would foon be brought before both Houses. It did not, his Lordship said, becoine him to say more upon the subject, or to under



take to pledge bim?elf that such a bill would be so brought in, as he had stated, but he could allure the noble Earl, thai she object of his withes had not been loft sig'it of during the proceedings on the present bill.

The Earl of Suffolk repeated his hope, that it was not meant to repeal the excellent statute, to which he had alloded, in order by that means to effect the important object in question.

ARMY OF RESERVE. Lord Hobart moved that this bill be read a third time; which being read, his Lordship moved two or three amendmenis, which were agreed to.

The Lord Chancellor put the question, when

The Earl of Suffolk asked, at what Itage he might be allowed to deliver his sentiments, as a military man, as to the best mode of defence that ought to be adopted by Ministers?

The Lord Chancellor said, he might state them on his putting the question, “ that the bill pass." His Lordihip then put the question on the third reading, which was agreed 10, and the bill was read a third time. On the Lord Chancellor putting the question

" that this. bill do pass,"

The Earl of Suffolk rose and said, he should beg leave to trouble their Lordships with some observations on the meafure of defence about to be adopted by the present bill. As a military man, he wished particularly to throw out soine hints to his Majesty's Ministers, which he thought should be acted upon as fpeedily as poslible. Next to the proper formation and discipline of the troops, he considered no one thing to be so important as the appointment of officers to command them, who were at once the most able, the most skilful, and in whom the troops were likely to have the greatest confidence. There was nothing which more contributed to inspire troops with courage, zeal, and a consciousness of their own strength, than to be commanded by men of great reputation for military talents, by men who had seen service and gained victories. He would, on the present trying occasion, moft earnestly recommend it to his Majelty's Ministers, to select officers of this descriprion ibroughout the British service, in order to give each of ihem a chief command; and that should be done without any regard to the seniority which one general officer might have over another. Upon this subject, he could not help expresVOL. IV. 1802-3.

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sing fing his regret at fome recent appointments. He did not with to allude to persons, but he supposed every noble Lord who heard hiin, knew what he alluded to. If ever there was any part of the conduct of the noble Lord at the head of the Adiniralıy more praise worthy than another, it was that of his doing away the punćtilio of seniority, at the time he gave the chief command of a fleet 10 Lord Nelson. The same rule ought to be observed in the military department. Let Ministers weigh well in their minds what it was which we had at stake, and consider how important row.rds the security of the country it must be, to have great and experi. enced generals at the head of the troups. He would put it to that House, and to his Majesty's Ministers, whether it was wise or politic to give the conqueror of Egyp: a subordinale command ? It might be said, that being but a major. general, that gallant and noble officer could not have a chief command over generals of older rank : Ministers ought to know that this was not a time to think of the punclilius of seniority. If the great armies of France were io be defealed, it would be necessary to imitate, in some measure, the practices of France, with regard to the appoinıment of generals. The Government of that country paid no regard to feniority; they searched after men of military talents, and appointed those whom they looked upon as the bravest and the most skilful to command the armies.

All the great geneJals of France, who had diftinguished themselves in the late war, were raised up from subordinate situations. Among these, the Government was able to distinguish such men as Massena and Moreau. In the present critical situation of this country, it was absolutely necessary to adopt a similar practice, and to raise up merit wherever it was to be found. But he was confident, that among the British general officers, there were to be found persons fuily qualified to conduct our armies, If care was taken to make a proper sele&tion, according to the various degrees of merit which they were known to possess. Next to a judicious selection of general officers, he considered it a matter of the greatest importance to form bebefore-hand the best poslible plans of operations, and to determine how certain things were to be done, according to circumltances. For this purpose, he would earnestly recommend the appointment of a military Committee, whose buliness it fhould be to consider and determine on plans of operations, and to receive such plans as might be presented 10


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