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special leave of the House, and for satisfactory reasons givena 10 adjourn for more than twenty-four hours. There were feveral instances however, in which the House acted more on the spirit than the letter of the bill, when there were good and special reasons affigned. The Committee on the Westminster election, for example, were allowed to adjourn for five or six days; that on the Worcester election for a forte night; and the same indulgence was granted to the Committee on the East Grimsby ele&tion for four or five days. The House would of course recollect, that the present report assigned very good reasons, but the extent of the adjournmert requested was unprecedented, and very probably the Parliament might not be fitting so late as the 29th of Au. gust.
Mr. Lee considered the motion to be of considerable con. sequence. The necessity of an adjournment he believed to be universally admitted, and the more so, as it was made at the request of the parties interested. The motion, hewever, was, in iis present shape, liable to very strong objections. The difficulty which suggested itself to him was, that as by the act of Parliament, Committees could not adjourn for more than twenty-four hours, unless Sundays or Christmas-day intervened, ihose members of it could make no application to the House for the purpose of extending its adjournments, however necessary, as it would have no discretion unless fitting at the same time. He did not see how, if the House was ready to extend their adjournment to the 25th of August, they might not with greater propriety extend it still farther to the time when it could be ascertained that the House would be actually sitting.
Mr. Bragge suggested the propriety of extending the ad. journment to September, if ihe 25th of August hould not be deemed long enough ; but perhaps it might be better, in this case, to pass a fhort bill, as had been done before, to Hifpenfe with the provisions of the act of Parliament, in this particular instance.
The Speaker said, that toties quoties the necessity of adjourne ments was made out, Parliament had a right to exercise its discretion in granting permission ; but, that it never recognized the power of a Committee to adjourn by its own au, thority for more than 24 hours, or assembling on the firft day after the meeting of ihe House. Mr Ward supported the opinion of the Speaker. VOL. IV. 1802-3,
Sir L. Dundas pressed the adoption of the adjournment, for which sufficient reasons were alligned in the report of the Committee.
Mr. Lee said, he did not deny the propriety of an adjournment, but declared his opinion of the Grenville ad to be such, that he wilhed the letter of it to be construed more ftri&ly than that of any other on the statute book.
Mr. Bragge declared, that all he had heard only confirmed him in the opinion, that the best remedy would be found in a fpecial bill for this particular object.
Mr. Bragưe moved the further consideration of the report of the Britih port bill.
Mr. Henderson said, he did not mean to oppose the bill, but fuggested that the rates would amount to much more than the necessity of the case required.
Mr. Bragge acknowledged the suggestion to be just, but added, that the produce received in that way would go to the purpose of a linking fund.
The report was then agreed to pro forma, and the debate upon it adjourned till after the disposal of fome remaining orders.
The Irish army of reserve bill was put very deliberately by the Speaker, and agreed to. The bill pafled nem. con. and Colonel Vereker was directed to take it to the Lords.
A message from the Lords announced that they had agreed to the whale fishery, Irich bank promissory note, the Irilk militia pay, the Irith combination, and the port of Glasgow water bills.
The debate on the Bristol canal bill was resumed, when Mr. Bragge proposed a clause, enjoining that the rates for that purpose Thould not commence till twelve months after the works were advanced, and 100,000l. expended on them, which was agreed to, and the bill ordered to be engroffed.
Sir C. Pole obtained leave to bring in a bill on the second report of the navy commissioners.
Lord Caftlereagh moved for an account of the amount of the profits and losses on the sales of the East India company to the first of March last, 1803, which was agreed tu.
His Lordship then said, that for some particular reasons he found it necessary to poftpone the East India budget, of which he gave notice for Mnday next, to Monday se'nnight; and he now gave notice that he should, on Monday next, move for leave to bring in a bill to permit the Ea Ina dia company to make allowances to such of their ships as had failed before the delivery of his Majesty's message.
Sir Robert Buxton moved an humble address to his Ma. jesty, praying that there be laid before the House, an account of the returns made to the Secretary of State's office, of the number of prisoners contined in his Majesty's gaols of Great Britain and Wales, together with the offences or charges for which they were coinmitted.
The Speaker said, there was a doubt whether the motion would embrace the object, for it had yet been undecided, with gentlemen of the long robe, whether all the prisons could be comprised under the denomination of King's gaols.
Mr. Hobhouse faid, if the object of such motion was mere curiosity, and not as the foundation of some public measure, it would be giving a deal of unnecessary trouble.
Sir R. Buxton replied, that it was sufficient to say, that the returns were now on the table of the Secretary of Sta: e for the home department; and that whether any mealure should be founded on it or not, it must be of importance for the Legislature to know the nature of the crimes com. mitted, and to ascertain whether they were increasing or diminishing
The motion was then agreed to.
The Irish treasury bills' bill was read a second time, and committed for the next day.
The Irish revenue regulation bill, the Irish militia pay bill, the Irish militia adjutants bill, and the East India dock bill, were read a third time and passed.
Mr. Vanfittart moved the further consideration of the report of the assessed tax duty confolidation bill-- which was agreed to, and the bill recommitted. In the Committee he moved an amendment, that any parish which was situated within the bills of mortality, should be liable to the fame qualifications for commissioners under that act, as were imposed on the commissioners for the cities of Lon. don and Westminster, which was agreed to, and the report ordered to be received the next day.
Mr. Alexander brought up the report of the five millions exchequer bills' bih, which was ordered to be read a third time the next day.
The bill for allowing the exportation of grain to the islands of Jersey, Guernsey, and Alderney, was read a first, and ordered to be read a second time the next day; as was also a bill for allowing Portugal wines to be landed, and warehoused, duty free, for a time to be limited.
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An account was presented from the Navy Office, of the fums expended by the Trealurer of the Navy, in the way of encouragement for the discovery of the longitude.
The friendly fociety relief bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed for Monday.
Mr. Vanfittart moved for an account io be presented of the net produce of the taxes of Great Britain, from the 5th of January 1802, to the corresponding day in the year 1803, which was agreed to. Adjourned.
HOUSE OF LORD S.
FRIDAY, JULY 8.
Mr. Alexnder brought up from the Commons, and pre. sented, the militia adjutants and serjeant majors bill, the militia pay and cloathing bill, the London port bill, and the five million Exchequer bills' bill, which were severally read a first time.
On the question for committing the lottery bill,
The Earl of Suffolk rose and said, he considered that the bill was a bill for the defence of the country, and for enabling Government to support the war, and therefore, what he had to offer, would be applicable to it. His Lordthip alluded to the address of the city of London, which was noi, what he thought might have been expected from the firft corporation in the kingdom. It did not breathe that fpirit or energy necessary to encourage a vigorous prosecution of the war, but was rather of a pacific tendency. He was under the correction of the House if he had stated, or thould state, any thing erroneous, but could not think the proportion of men to be raised by the city of London for the Army of Reserve, by any means adequate to the number which might have been looked for by lo opulent and so populous a city. By what he learnt from the public prints, no more than 800 men were intended, which was surely a very inadequate forc'. Eight hundred inen were no more in the preseni crisis, than a drop of water in the ocean, considering ihe wealth and population of London, and considering the great interest it had at ftake in the contest. The city of London would undoubtedly be a great object, it houldiake the lead, and give the tone to all the other places, instead of being behind most others. His Lordship contrasted it with the conduct of the city of Paris, when the Austrians and Pruffians entered France; on that
occasion, even the women stood forward and affilted in form. ing the fortifications. What he thought the proportion of men that London ought to furnith, under the present circumItances, would be 2000 at least, half the officers 10 be appointed by the city, and half by the Crown, and the appointment of "he commander of them Mould remain with his Ma. jesty. He could not help censuring the apathy of ille city, on so urgent an occasion; and what he had said were his real fen:iments, and he wished the considerations should go forth to the city, who ought, as it appeared to him, to consider the great ftake they had in the way, and consequently thould have felt the necessity of holding out a more pausioric example to the rest of the kingdom.
Lord Randon (Earl of Moira) said, his noble Friend conceived a molt erroneous idea of the sentiments and feeling ofen the city of London on the present occasion. He was confident, and would, from his own knowledge, ailert, that the city entertained sentiments of genuine loyalty and devotion to ihe King, and felt the most ardent enchufialın aod zeal for the defence and honour of the couniry. He had, his Lordihip said, held several conversations with some of the leading men in the city, and was convinced that such were their sentiments, and the sentiments of the city at large. They would have come foward with an extensive and powertul allistance, were they not apprehensive of embarrassing the measures of Government by fo doing; but he was fatisfied that the city, impressed as it was, and conscious of the great stake it had, would in proper tine come forward with a force comınenfurate with its extensive means, and proportionale io its numerous population. His Lordihip repeated, that the fear of embarrailing the present measures of Government, alone prevented the city from doing more at present, and firenuously contended for its patriotisın.
Lord Hobart agreed perfectly in what had fallen from the noble Lord. His Lord hip fan, he had no doubt but that the city would act in a patriotic and exemplary manner in the present crisis of the country. One point mentioned by the noble Earl, he begged leave particularly to advert 10. The number of 800 men was only the ciiy's quo'a under vne particular bill--the Army of Reserve bill, which had lately received the Royal asient. The Army of Reserve had no reference to another measure in contemplation. The city of London, he was convinced, would not be behind any part of the kingdom in its contributions of men and means, to