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which would produce forly times as much as the whole amount of the income arising from Queen Anne's bounty, which was no more than fifteen thousand pounds. Let the dignitaries of the church contribuie two real first fruits, and two real tenths. His Lordthip stated the arguments that he had mure than once used with regard to the beneficed clergy, in poflellion of livings of more than 1col. a year, all of whom he would have contribute to aflift their poorer breihren of the cloth, and also the dignified clergy of every description. In addition to this, if it should be found necessary, he would propose the measure recommended by the Bishop of Llandaff in his celebrated letter to the Archbishop of Canterbury, 10 deduct a third of the profits of all Prebendaries, Deaneries, and other livings under Chapters, such as Bath and Wells, &c. and if a further sum should still be necessary, he (Lord Suffolk) would propose a lax of 2 per ceni, on all livings above 300l. per annum to 8col.; and after the latter, fum, of 4 and 5 per cent, according to iheir value. The first fruits and tenih swere given to our Kings before the reformaton, a practice which prevailed up to the reign of Queen Anne, who with great generosity gave them leave to establish à corporation, who were to distribute the produce among the inferior clergy. If the Pope had con inued his former fupremacy over the religion of this country, little doubt could be enieriained but he would have insisted on a real first-fruits and tenth; and the Crown being now placed in the situation of ihe Pope, had an undoubted right to exact the same, which would produce 150,0col which he thought would be perfectly adequate to the purpose. . His Lordship, Speaking of the Siatute of Morimain, said it was was of ihe utmost utility, for that many infances of the greatest abuses had prevailed 'antecedent to it, through the influence ot the clergy. He would state one which happened not many years since at Naples, which was a Roman Catholic country, and consequently the priests had there more influence over the minds of men under circumstances of weakness and ena thusiasm, commonly felt by persons in a dying state, than in a Protestant country.

A priest was fent for to administer spiritual comfort to the mind of a man upon his death-bed. The Prince de Cereeli, he believed, was the dying man, and poliefied immense riches; the priest persuaded him to leave his whole fot une exclusively to him, to the great prejudice of his own family and relations. Nor was ihe priest con, tented with his wealth only, but he would have the bed froin under the dying man. At that moment the physician of the Prince came into the room, and finding what was doing, said to the priest, “ No, you shall not have the bed, it is my perquisite, and I'll have it." This altercation got abroad, and the will was in confequence set aside, His Lordship then adverted to what he had before faid relative to rithes being a heavy burchen on the improvements in agriculture ; and alluding to what had on that occasion been advanced by the Bishop of St. Asaph, * that where tithes are taken in kind, it was universally found they were the best cultivated lands in the kingdom," his Lordship observed, that it was certainly true ; but so far from its being an argument, that tithes were favourable to agriculture, it only proved this incontestible fact, “that where lands had been highly improved, the Clergy had uniformly insisted on receiving tithes in kind." His Lordship said he could not attend to another bill upon this fubject, in the other house, as he wanted to go into the country to encourage his tenants and neighbours to act with energy and vigour against the enemy, if he effected a landing, His Lordship reminded the House of what the consequencé had been in France, owing, he really believed, to the clergy of France joining the Tiers Etats; to that circumstance, he in a great measure attributed the revolution. Having touched vpon various different matters, some of which his Lordship admitted were not immediately connected with the present bill, he at length brought his speech to a conclusion.


The Bishop of St. Afaph rose to say, that notwithstanding the apprehentions of the noble Earl, that this bill was about to repeat the Mortmain Ad, as it was erroneously termed, the bill was not calculated to do any such thing. It solely went to add a single exemprion to those which already appeared in what was called ihe Morimain A&, viz. the governors and trustees of Queen Anne's bounty. This single limited exemption was all that the bill did.

The Lord Chancellor left the Woolfack to explain to the noble Earl, that he had not been the person to say what the noble Earl had imputed to him respecting tithes. His Lordfhip said, the benefice of every clergyman, with all its atten, dant advantages, was as much his property as his freehold was his property. He contended, that there was always a great ouicry about tithes, but he never heard any person pretend to affect lay property. He contended, thai no part of the ecclesiastical system, as it now stood, could be broke in upon, witbout running the risk of utterly destroying every


part of the clerical character. Clergymen must not be converted into farmers, and bold lands, unless it were meant to undermine the whole church establishment. But eithes were a favourite topic to hold out to alarm the populace; and in all the feditious publications, from the year 1793 10 1796, it was selected and held forth as a fit means of degrading the Government, and putting the subjects out of humour with

His Lordship then went into an ample explanation of the grounds of the present bill. He said, whai was fallely termed the Mortmain Act contained certain exemptions, and for many years it was held that these exemptions included the trust for the distribution of Queen Anne's bounty. But in the late Lord Camden's time, a caufe came before him on the question, whether the exemptions did ina clude that trust or not.

Lord Camden held that it did not, and the new doctrine had prevailed ever since. It was, Therefore, necessary to correct the accidental inadvertency of the Legisarure, and set the Legislature right where it was wrong.

This was the object of the bill, and nothing more; but with respect to the Mortmain a&ts, when they came to be examined, they would not be found to merit the high commendations which men, who did not correály underftand then, were pleased to bestow upon them.

The Earl of Suffolk rose to explain, and said, he certainly should have no objection to exchange lay impropriations for adequate compeusations, as it would be an advantage to hiin, his whole estate consisting chiefly of lay impropriations. Having stated this, his Lordship was again entering into a disquiñition on the conduct of the clergy of France previous to the revolution, when he was called to order by

The Bihop of. St. Ajaph, who said, he would not fit patiently and hear the clergy of the Church of England compared with the clergy of France, between whom there was no parellel whatever. Besides, what had ibe conduct of the clergy. of France to do with the present bill?

Lord Suffolk resumed, but was soon again called to order by the Bilhop, for continuing to talk of the clergy of France, and also for speaking a second time.

The Lord Chancellor said, he thought the noble Earl had risen to notice and explain about lomething which had fallen from him; but certainly he had not laid one word about the clergy of Fiance.

Lørd Suffolk Tajd a few explanatory words, and then the bill was read a third time, and passed. VOL. IV. 1902-3.


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WOOLLEN MANUFACTURE. The Earl of Radnor presented a bill to authorise Parliament to keep alive till another Session the bill now pending on the subject of the clothing trade and woollen manufacture, notwithstanding any prorogation or separation of Parliament. His Lord thip laid, the other House had been occupied with examining evidence upon this bill before a Committee, and in the Fouse, for eight months. It was therefore probable, that it would cost Their Lordfhips' more time than would probably remain of the Sellion to go through it with due deliberation and attention, and it would be a very inconvenient matter to give the other House the trouble of expending another eight months upon it in the next Sellions, by going over the whole work again, if it did not pass this Seifion, which there was liute probability of. His Lordship added, that the bill which he had in his hand was 'not without à precedenti

The Lord Chancellor approved the object of the bill, but suggested, that as many actions were pending, and others might be commenced in the interim, on the existing flatules, which the bill went to repeal, he trusted that a clause would be inserted in the noble Earl's bill, either these' or in the other House, to suspend all fuch actions till their Lordihips Thould have had time 10 have gone through their proceedings on the woollen manufacture bill, which they had referred 10 a Committee the other day. He admitted that the noble Earl's bill was not unprecedented.

The Duke of Clarence said, he would only trouble the House with a few words. He agreed most heartily in supporting the proposed bill of fufpenfion, because the woollen manufacture bill was a bill of great importance, and its principle had been approved of by both Houses; and it ceriainly would be right to afford their Committee full time to pay serious attention 10 he examination of the winnelles, and the formation of the clauses of that bill. The proposed bill would secure that material object.

The bill was read a first time.

The Earl of Radnor then moved, that the order for the Committee meeting on Monday be discharged. Ordeied.

BRISTOL PORT BILL. Counsel were called in at a quarter after fix, and proceeded to examine wiineties. Afier examining two, the furiher examination was adjourned to Monday following. Adjourned to Monday,




FRIDAY, JULY 15: The Highland canal bill went through a Committee, and was orderel to be reported the next day.

A mellage from ilie Lord announced their having agreed to the taxes amendment, the Irish revenue, and the Dublin

port bills.


A petition was presented from the Debtors confined in the gaol of Liverpool, praying relief. . Ordered to lie on the table.

On the motion fus the second reading of the prize count bill,

Mr. Johnstone, on account of the great importance of the measure, and the pressure of other butinefs already before the Houfe, wished to have it poftponed for a few days.

Sir W. Scort and Mr. Hobhouse represented the propriery of dispatch at present in a measure, which had already been for a considerable time before the House.

The bill was then read a second time, and commilled for Tuesday next. *** The House went through a Committee on the chest of Chatham transfer bill, the report of which was received im. mediately, ordered to be printed, and taken into further con. fideration on Tuesday. *The militial amendment bill was read a second time, and committed for the next day. ** The Grenada loan bill was read a third time and passed. .!!

INDIA BUDGET. ** Lord Caftlereagh, on account of the measure for national

defence, to be brought forward on Monday next, said, 'he 'found himself under the necessity of deferring the statement he proposed to submit on that day, on the subject of the finances of India, till Monday fe'ennight. shadi?

STIPENDIARY CLERGY. Sir IV. Scott rose, in pursuance of his notice, to call the artention of the House to a very necessary and interesting subject. In the discullions of the bill, which he had lately the honour' of fubmitting, a great deal had been said of the want of provision for the lower orders of the clergy, who were justly faid to have been left by the House in a state of degrading indigence. It was with satisfa, tion he remarked, that, in all that had been said on the subject, there was not a word uitered, which seemed to be the result of indifference for that religion to which our ancestors had been so fervently


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