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HOUSE OF LORD S.
THURSDAY, JULY 21. A bill to correct a clerical error in the former bill, which had passed, relative to allowing spiritual persons to hold farms, and to enforce the tesidence of the clergy, was brought up by Sir William Scott and others, presented, and tead a first time.
The Earl of Westmorland brought down a Message from his Majesty, reminding the House of Lords of the intimate connection this country had long held with our old and faithful allies, the illustrious Princes of the House of Orange, and after deliring the attention of their Lordthips to the great losses sustained by those Princes during the late war, calling upon their liberality and benevolence to allist in enabling his Majesty to furnish the late Stadtholder and his family with some pecuniary aslistance.
The Message was ordered to be taken into consideration on Monday next.
WOOLLEN MANUFACTURE: The order of the day for going into a Committee of the whole House upon a bill intituled “ An act to suspend, until the first day of July, 1804, proceedings in adions, prosecutions, and proceedings under certain
acts, relating to the woollen manufacture, and also under an act of the reign of Elizabeth, so far as the same relates to certain persons employed or concerned in the fame manufacture," having been read, Lord Walsingham in the chair,
Mr. Fielding caine to the bar as counsel for the journey. men weavers, and in a neat and nervous speech said, that if that gigantic measure of the bill, to sweep away all the existing statutes, had been perfifted in, his clients would have been in a deplorable situation indeed, as they would have been deprived of all the protection those statutes extended to them; but their Lordships having their attention called at present to a short bill of suspension, he would not add to their fatigue, by a long occupation of their time. He then confined himfélf to iwo fingle poinis, imploring their Lordiltips to so frarne the bill in the Committee, as to take care that a provision should be inserted to prevent the introduction of any new machinery during the period of the fufpension, and the other to secure the petitioners all the benefits of the act of Elizabeth, respecting apprentices. -Vol. IV. 1802-3.
The Lord Chancellor said, the title of this bill stated that it was an act to suspend for a given time, proceedings in actions, prosecutions, &c. &c. and that in fact ought to be the fole principle of the bill; but the first clause went far beyond the reach of the title, and actually proceeded to fufpend the operation of the various acts themselves, upon which such actions and prosecutions had been founded. The Legis. Jature could never, he conceived, mean to go that length, and 'therefore he should move in the Commitee, such ainendments as should confine the bill to what ought to be purely its principle," viz. 'a bill of suspension of the actions and prosecutions already commenced. His Lordship faid, that the necessity of passing some bill arose from the Commons' having sent up to that House another bill, which was a bill of great magnitude and importance, and which it was impossible for that House, at fo advanced a period of the session, to give that due consideration and attention to which fo large and comprehensive a matter as that bill went to, absolutely required. That a number of provisions in the old statutes ftood in need of revision, no man could dehy; many of the regulations contained in those laws were actually impractiCable, and inflicted penalties on the woollen manufađurers for not doing what, from the change of circumstances, it was at this time of day impossible for them to perform. From such provisions, accompanied with penalties, they ought to be relieved; but it was one thing to grant necessary relief, and another to go the length of sweeping away at once all the statutes, and all the various regulations they contained. Many of those regulations were fill useful and fit to be reserved. At any rate it was incumbent upon their Lordships to be enabled to judge for themselves, upon the policy of so important a change in the law, before they dea cided upon it. The Commons had sent them a copy of the evidence that had been adduced before their Commirree upon the bill, but their Lordships could not admit that as evidence, they must go into the examination of witnesses themselves and a great deal of examination would be abfolutely necessary. It being, therefore, impossible to proceed with the other bill, they were neceffarily driven to the present bill of suspension ; but although they agreed to fufpend existing ations and prosecutions, till Parliament could have duly considered the subject, they ought to leave the old statute entire and untouched ; indeed, that was the only regular and parliamentary course of proceeding. With regard to what
had been said of the introduction of machinery in the interim, and during the suspension, great doubts ha' been entertained whether gig-mills were further affected b the ancien statute, than the recital of the clauses in that bill stated; and it had been replied by some of the learned lawyers heard at the bar, that they were not. But if any clause was meant to be moved for insertion in the present bill, it ought to be drawn with great caution, and so framed, that it thould not go one atom beyond its real object, because if it did, it might raise additional doubts and dificulties, and interfere with ihe use of gig-mills in the manufactory of woollen cloth, for such pura poses as were not only not injurious to the manufacture, but highly useful, and had been habitually in practice for many years. With resped to the taking apprentices, under the act of Elizabeth, his own idea was, ihat that statute, like all the others, should be left as it was during the continuance of the suspension. The practice ought for the present to go on as usual, where the manufacturer either took apprentices, or what was as good as apprentices, bred up boys for seven years to the business, in the nature of apprentices. His Lordship made some other observations, and then moved first, that the consideration of the preamble, and next, that the whole of the first clause be omitted. His Lordship afterwards moved a great variety of amendments in the bill; among others, that the words “one thousand eight hundred and three” be omitted in the title, and the words, “ onc thousand eight hundred and four” be inseried. At length having gone through the bill, the House was resumed.
GLASGOW THEATRE, The Earl of Rosslyn moved the second reading of this bill, and made a short speech, but few words of it could be heard below the bar.
The Lord Chancellor remarked upon the general wording of one of the clauses in the bill, which, in a huddled manner, gave to the proprietors all the rights, benefits, advantages; and interests, that ever had been enjoyed by proprietors of theatres from the beginning of them. He said, he did not mean to oppose the second reading, but he hoped care would be taken in the Committee to limit and fix the number of proprietors, so as to ascertain who the real proprietors were, because the new theatres, the proprietorship of which had been so divided and fubdivided into minute portions, that it was difficult to define who the proprietors actually were. The Earl of Rosslyn made a short reply.--Adjourned. 4 I 2
HOUSE HOUSE OF COMMONS.
THURSDAY, JULY 21. A message from the Lords'announced their having agreed to the Grenada lóan and some private bills.
The clergy farming and residence amendment bill, was read a third time and passed.
Mr. Vansittart moved, that the bill for securing the duties on tea exported to Ireland, be committed the next day. Ora dered.
Mr. Vanfittart moved, that the House should go into a Committee the next day, to consider so much of the Custom consolidation act as related to the regulation of the duties on quaslia, imported into the kingdom; the exportation of tobacco, and also the propriety of allowing the importation of cotton from New Orleans and the Western States of America. Ordered. * A Committee was ordered to fit the next day, for the purpose of inquiring into the duties now payable upon the im. portation of lignum-quaslia.
Three instructions were also moved to the said Committee :
ist. To inquire into the duties payable on the exportation of tobacco. i 2dly. That it make provision for compelling exporters of goods to deliver a copy of their cocket to the enrolling surveyors.
3dly. To make provision for permitting the importation of cotton from New Orleans, or the Western States of North America.
The Chatham chest transfer bill was read a third time and passed.
Lord Hawkesbury then appeared at the bar, and delivered, to the following effect,
A MESSAGE FROM HIS MAJESTY, G. R. “ His Majesty having taken into confideration the prefent fituation of the illustrious House of Orange, the bonds of alliance and affinity between him and that illustrious family, the important services it has rendered to this country on so many occasions, and the losses it sustained in the course of the late war, recommends these circumstances to the attention of his faithful Commons, trusting that they
will enable him to make fuch pecuniary allowance to that illustrious family as may be warranted hy its present situation, and the justice of this country.”
Lord Hawkesbury then nioved, that the message be referred to a Committee of supply, which being agreed to, his Lordship gave notice, that on Monday next he lhould submit a motion on that subject to the House.
COTTON WEAVERS. The order of the day being read, for the report of the cotton weavers' bill,
The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, that as there was an order for counsel to be heard at the bar, on this bill, it would be impossible for the Houfe to have time to attend to their pleadings, and proceed also upon the other important business before them. He therefore moved, that the report be deferred till Monday next, which was agreed to.
LORD AMHERST'S GRANT. The Chancellor of the Exchequer, on the order being read for the House to resolve itself into a Committee to consider of the grant of Crown lands made to the late Lord Amherst, and his successors in the province of Canada, moved, that an abstract of rhe proceedings of council, relative to that grant, be referred to the said Committee, which was agreed
The House then resolved itself into the Committee, Mr. Alexander in the chair.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, that the proposition he had to submit was founded upon the message the Committee had now to consider of. It would be unnecessary for him to dwell on the distinguished services of the late Lord Amherst, and it would be fufficient for him to observe, that it was to his ineritorious services, and those of the late General Wolfe, that we were indebted for the valuable annexation of Canada to the Crown of Great Britain. It would be very superfluous to attempt a detail of those glorious exertions to persons at all conversant in the history of this country; it would suffice to say, that his Majesty was willing to reward and did reward those services, by a grant to Lord Amherst of certain Crown lands, situated in the province which had been conquered by his valour. When the grant was submitted to the Crown lawyers in America, a number of confiderations opposed obstacles to the exe