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cution of the grants. It was observed, that the lands were only granted to furnish his Lordship with an annuity of 2501. whereas, by the grant, he had a right to demand the possession of the whole, though subject to account to the public for the remainder of the produce, after the deduction of the annuity. The ground allo, consisting of a million of acres, was capable of very great improvement, for the equat benefit of the colony and of the revenue ; and, after these improvements liad been made, should Lord Amherst lay claim and make good his title to the whole, the fortune arising from it would be too enormous for any subject of this country to poffefs. In consequence of these difficulties, Lord Anherst failed in his applications for the reward of his fervices, and remained till his death in expectation of being enabled to avail himself of the favour of his Sovereign. As the 'firit fortune, then, to which pretensions may be made, was thought too exorbitant, and much more than could have been originally intended, the properest way feems to be, for the House to commute it for an annuity, commensurate with the amount of the grant originally proposed. But'as it should be considered, that his Lordship and his representatives had been deprived of the benefit of the grant for these 40 years past, the amount of the annuity Thould be fixed, with a view to that circumstance. He concluded with moving a refolution, “ That it is the opinion of this Committee, that there be granted to his Majesty, out of the consolidated fund, the annual sum of 30001. as a compensation to the representalives of the late Jeffery Lord Amherst, to begin from the 5th of July, 1803."

Mr. Courtenay bore ample testimony to the high character and honour of Lord Amherst, of whose eminent fervices no person could be more sensible than he was. He had many opportunities, while he was in an official situation, of observing on his conduct, and never knew a man in his life who was less actuated by any thing like selfishness or perfonal confideration. Indeed, he lamented to find that his Lordship had, till the time of his death, good reafon to complain that his fervices had not been rewa ded. He now rejoiced to find that his representatives had been more successful, but he could not approve of the intended commutation. The reason why justice had been so long delayed, had never yet been fatisfactorily explained, for he knew himself that the former Lord Amherst presented nudierous petitions, which had been sent to the law officers

in Canada, and by them referred back again. The revenue diliked making this perpetual charge upon the consolidated fund, which had in it nothing similar to the original grant, and, whatever may be the fate of Canada, would remain for ever chargeable upon the public. He conceived it would be much better to let the annuity intended for the Amherft family, come from the revenues of the lands themselves.

Mr. Canning observed, that as all were agreed refpeaing the merits and important services of the late Lord Ainherit, the only difference of opinion that could arife was on the question, would the public consent to purchase the grant of lands for the proposed annuity? Upon this subject he had no hesitation. He would not reduce the noble Lord, the present representative, to the necefsity of becoming an accountant for the produce of these lands over and above the grants, but should prefer this annuity as the mode moft convenient to his Lordship, and beneficial to the public.

Mr. Courtenay and the Chancellor of the Exchequer explained.

Sir William Dallen was in favour of the annuity, as he thought the dignity of the peerage, and the services of the late Lord Amherst, required that any representative of his, having a seat in the other House, should be secured in an income of 30001. a-year for ever.

Mr. Courtenay said, that if this grant fhould, as proposed, be commuted for a pension, he hoped, that the Houle had reason to expect, that the same lands would not be granted away again. The resolution was then agreed to, and the seport was ordered to be received the next day.

NORTHERN LIGHTS. The House having refolved into a Committee on the report reipeeting the northern lights,

Sir William Pulteney moved a resolution for impofing duties to support the establishment of a light-house on the Black Rock in the north-western coast of Scotland. What lie proposed, he said, was a mere trifle, being no more than 3d. per ton on every ship that passed and entered any of the ports of Scotland, allowing an indemnity to vessels enployed on the Greenland whale fishery; which was agreed to, and ordered to be reported the next day.

NATIONAL DEFENCE. The Secretary at Ivar moved the order of the day, for the Houle to resolve itself into a Committee on the bill for


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the more effectual defence of the country ; and on the queftion for the Speaker's leaving the chair,

The Marquis of Titchfield called the attention of the House to a circumstance upon which many gentlemen confidered their character and honour to be involved. On a late occasion, when he happened not to be present in the House, he understood that the right hon. Gentleman (the Secretary at War) had said, speaking of the deficiencies in the numbers of the militia, that there was a scandalous and dlscreditable neglect in the enrolment of the regiments in the counties of Middlesex and Surry, and that it was owing to the misconduct of those who were appointed to carry the measure into effect. So far, the Marquis faid, was this from being the case, that it entirely proceeded froin the difficulty, as far as regarded the Middlesex militia, at leaft from the great difficulty of finding persons in this metropolis suited to that service. So sensible was he of this circunsftance from former experience, that previously to the militia being ballotted, he had himself told the right hon. Secretary that the general laws of the militia system were quite inapplicable to the metropolis. He hoped the right bon. Gentleman would have the goodness to explain the ground upon which he made that statement, in order that, if well-founded, his Majesty might appoint perfons better qualified than those that were now employed. He assured the House that he felt so much reluctance to address them, that if his own character only, as Lord Licutenant of this county, was at stake or implicated, he thould feel rather disposed to pafs it over in filence, but he could not act in the same way, feeling as he did for the honour and character of others. He conceived the public intereft to require the explanation he requested, as nothing, he thought, could be more injurious to the public service than undefervedly to hurt and wound the feelings of an honeft and meritorious set of gentlemen.

The Secretary at War expresfed his regret at its having been believed that the expreffion of his thus alluded to, was meant to convey any reflections on the characters of the noble Lords Lieutenants of the two counties. He certainly did, and was well-fonnded in saying, that there were great frauds and mismanagement in the militia departments of the two counties of Middlesex and Surry, but he could never mean to impute these frauds to the Lords Lieutenants, or those who were higher in office. He recollected very well


that the noble Marquis (Titchfield) represented to him some time since, that the militia laws in force were not applicable to Middlesex. He then thought the noble Lord mistaken in that opinion, and conceived that a remedy might be found in putting it under a new regulation ; but in that he found hintelf disappointed, for the militia of Middlesex were then no better railed than it had been before. It was evident, therefore, that some other measure became necessary; but it was not within the exclusive department of the Secretary at War, nor could it be likely to prove effectual, unless devised in conjunction with the Lord Lieutenant and others.

The Marquis of Titchfield replied, that the explanation was satisfactory, as far as regarded himself perfonally, but he was much more solicitous to ease the wounded feelings of the Deputy Lieutenants. The conversation then ended upon that part of the subject.

The House then refolved itself into the Committee, in which a variety of clauses were introduced. Among others was a clause for exempting the Judges of England and Scotland from the operation of the act.

The Secretary at War proposed a clause to the effect, that the persons comprized in ihe first class, who engaged to serve as volunteers, should be bound to march in case of invasion, and that all persons comprized in the other classes (hould remain, and continue to exercise in the parishes till further orders. This clause was agreed to.

The next clause was, that it his Majesty ordered out any part of the subsequent classes, that it should be chosen by ballot.

Mr. IV. Smith said, it would be more advantageous to have the ballot beforehand, ihan at the moment the men might be wanted.

Mr. Pitt suggested that it was not possible that any more would be required to go out of the country, than those who were contained in the first class.

The Secretary at War said, the details as to the number and description of the men to be drawn out ought to be left to his Majesty. It was ceriain that the persons in the first class would be the first to alleinble; but it was necessary to provide for a case which, though unlikely to happen, might .happen The next clause was for training the men for 21 days at VOL. IV. 1802-3.



farthest, and not less than 14 days till the 25th of December next.

Colonel Wood wished, that men should be trained all the year round, as there was no knowing how long the alarm might lalt.

Mr. Pitt said, the object was, that the 20 days training should rake place as early as poslible. He thought 14 days' would be too litile, unless it was meant to be ia addition to the Sundays. He thought it was not possible to train any number equal to the first class in the course of the present year. It would be much better to leave it to his Majesty.

The Secretary at War observed, that it was in his Majesty's discretion to give directions as to the period of training. In fourteen days a man might learn all that was sufficient. It was not necessary to keep men longer exercising than just 10 give them the first rudiments.

Sir W. Pulteney remarked, that exercising men upwards of iwo hours at a time only tortured and wearied them, instead. of facilitating their improvement.

Mr. Courtenay stated, that he remembered a regiment under Lord Howe, in the year 1756, which, consisting of raw secruiis, in three weeks learnt iis exercise, and was able to fire in platoons as well as the most experienced regiment; he saw it afterwards enbark for America He mentioned this to thew that twenty-one days were fufficient to learn people the use of arms.

He often raw old regiments maneuvring, looking to the right and left, and figuring in and out like school inifles with French dancing malters, while young reCruiis, with very little inftru&ion, became effective soldiers. If this bill was essentially carried into effect, it would make every man able to face the enemy.

The next clause related to the number of men his Majesty should draw out in the first instance upon the aların of invafion Agreed to.

The next required that the muster-roll fhould make a report of the present and the absentees at the parochial drills. Agreed to.

The Secretary a: War then brought up'a clause, enaĉing, that persons earning their livelihood by daily labour should be paid is for every day's attendance; and that the same should be reimbursed by the overseers of the poor, who should be reinbuised every month by the receiver-general, under the order of iwo justices of the peace.

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