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Sir William Pulteney thought this clause would be ruinous to the whole system. If such a principle of remuneration was once begun, it could not be withdrawn. He was therefore averse to there being any payment at all. He wished that people should come forth to exercise after their hours of labour were over. He recollected that when the French feer in the Channel was superior 10 vurs, and there was a fear of invasion, the people exercised after their labour was over, and all they received was two-pence to drink. It was a proposition destructive of the whole system, for he was well persuaded the money must eventually come out of the public purse. He hoped the Cummince would not listen for one moment to ir
Mr. Pitt said, he considered the aduption of the clause necessary to render the bill efficient for the present purposes of it. He did not mean to say that min were to be paid when they were not taken from their labour. He had no with that they thould be remunerated for exercising on a Sunday. Referring to ihe employing of the people during the approaching hay and corn harvell, he was sure they could not devote sheinselves to twenty one days exercise without taking so much line from their labour.
In a future year payment proposed might be regulated, but at present it was a proposition of indispen lible neceflity.
Sir Il'. Pulteney said, that if such a precedent was laid duwn it never could be departed from. We ough to make a struggle to avoid paying any thing; the service thould be entirely voluntary.
Lord Call reagh said, he partly felt the force of the obje&ion. With regard to Sunday, it would be travelling out of the question to lalk of giving pay on that day, or in any case where she hour of exercise was not the hour of occupation. He thought ihc clause ought not to be general, because undoubtedly there were individuals who would with to make a sacrifice of their rime to the public. He was of opinion, that if words were introduced into the clause, limiting its operation to those who should require remuneration, the objection might be obviated, and he thought the officer ought to certify when the party exercised after the usual hours of labour. lie was farished, that a people so full of the cause in which they were engaged, were capable of making whatever sacrifice might be necessary. The people of Ireland had willingly made that sacrifice, and nothing had ever occurred more in confirm hem in habits of industry. As legislating for the public, he was of opinion the remuneration ought to be given where it was required.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer suggested some flight ver- . bal alteration in the clause.
Mr. Plumer laid, many men went to work at five in the morning, and continued vill eight at night. If gentlemen thought a man, after such labour, could go to exercise with any degree of spirit, they were mistaken.
Mr. Cour.enay observed, that those who were adverse to the clause, seemed to think that virtue was its own reward ; but he believed men who rose at four o'clock, and worked all day, would have very little inclination to exercise for two hours afterwards, merely from a spirit of patriotism. When he looked up to the higher ranks, he did not perceive that they were fond of working gratuitously for the public. Much importance seemed to be attached to this splendid shilling. He though it was a proper encour genient to men to give up their time. It was not very ligh: labour, after an hard day's work, to handle a firelock for a couple of hours; and he was persuaded, if the hon. Baronet tried his hand at it, he would not think himself very well paid at receiving only a fhilling. It had been mentioned that the people who exercise i themselves upon an alarm of invasion, had received only two-pence; now he recollected having read in the works of General Monk, that when men were led on to dangerous enterprizes, it was necessary to give them a pot of beer. General Monk was a man of experience, and as he had said in his time, that every man, in a service of danger or trouble, should have a pot of beer, surely it was not too much to say that they Mould now have a shilling to drink the King's health, and success to Old England. The precedent was not intended to apply to another year. It only referred to the presen' and ensuing harvest.
Colonel Porter was of opinion the allowance ought to be made.
· Mr. Kinnaird objected to allowing the is. per day, unless the men exercised 2 1 consecutive days
Mr. IV Smith was of opinion, that is. a day might be too much at one period of the year, and too lirile ar another.
Losd Calleresigh admitted, it might sometimes be more or less than a compensation, but no man was to receive it at any rare, unless he earned his bread by daily labour, and re
Mr. Gyles observed, that labourers in some parts of the
country were hired for the month, and fed by their masters; consequently, if they exercised during the hours alloted 10 labour, the loss would be their masters', and not theirs. He thought the remuneration ought to be left to the discretion of the Lord Lieutenants.
Mr. W. Smith said, he wished that the system of training might extend to 1,000,000 of men; and to talk of paying them a shilling a day, would be to impose a very heavy buisthen upon the country. The price of labour was already rising in the country, but this plan would tend to make it ri still more ; for if a man could get a shilling for exercising two hours, he would be ape.to compare that remuneration with the profit of his whole day's labour.
After some further conversation between Lord Castlereagh, Mr. Plumer, the Secretary at War, Colonel Wood, General Gascoyne, Doctor Laurence, and Sir William Pulteney, the clause was agreed to.
The Secretary at War then proposed a clause, impowering sheriffs of couniies to summon juries to ascertain ihe value of property appropriated to the public service, in cases wh.re the owners should be difTatisfied with the compensation allowed by the Lords Lieutenants.
The last clause proposed by the Secretary at War, was the schedule containing the form of the muster-roll.
Mr. Tyrwhitt (the Prince of Wales's Secretary) brought up a clause giving the same powers to the Lord Warden and Deputy Warden of the Stannaries, as to Lord Lieutenan's and Deputy Lieutenants: and also another clause endowing them with the same military command in the Sannaries, as Lords and Deputy Lieutenants in the counties.
The House refumed, and the sepost was received and ordered to be taken into further consideration the next day.
TAX ON PROPERTY. The order of the day was moved for the House to resolve itself into a Committee on the property bill.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer trusted, the Committee would approve of the arrangement he meant to propose. He had a great number of clauses to submit, but it was impossible they could be taken into consideration in the late they now were. It was his intention they should be engrafted in the bill, and that the bill should be reported and printed; but it would be recollected, that there were some amendments which could be made in a Committee. He therefore should
propofe, , propose, that after it was reported it should be recommitted forthe next day, and har it should then be amenried, reported, and ordered to be raken into further consideration on Monday os Tuesday next.
The bill was accordingly reported with the clauses, and ordered to be taken into for her contideration ihe next day.
The habeas corpus extension bill was read a second lime, and commined for the next day.
VOLUNTEER CORPS. : On the question for committing the volunteer corps bill, ji was oritused, on the morion of Mr. Ormsby, that is be an instruction to the Commitee to receive a clause ro subject serjeanıs, drummers, isumpelers, &c. in volunteer corps in Ireland to martial law.
In the Committee on the bill, the Secretary at War pro. poled some clauses; one of which was, that volunteers should, in case of invafion, be compelled to march where they should be ordered ; and another was, for selling the rank of the officers. These were agreed to. The bill was ordered to be reported ihe next day.
BONDING AND WAREHOUSIG GOODS, On the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, an order was inade for the House to resolve itself into a Committee the next day, to consider of so much of his Majesty's speech as relates to che accommodation of merchants. The Chancellor of the Exchequer then gave notice, that he would the next day, in the raid Committee, propose the fyftem of warehousing and bonding of goods; and lie would make the motion at four o'clock, before the other public business was
Mr. Bernard called ihe attention of the House to a peri.ion on the table from the grand jury of ihe King's couniy, respecting the tolls on ihe grand canal; he haied, ihai a fum of 500,oool. was granted by the lalt Irish Parliament for the purpose of making canals, opening navigable rivers on reducing rolls, and purchasing exorbiiant tolls on canals. That part of this money was so applied as to enable the Royal and Barrow Canal Company to lower their rolls very considerably, but that the tolls on the grand canal, which ran through almott ine entire of the county which he had the honour to represent, had not derived any advantage from the grant, alihough Ihe rolls were now so very exorbitant as to materially affe i the trade of that county to Dublin. The county of Kila
dare and Queen's county are in fome measure affected also by those exorbitanı tolls. He had reason to expect that these counties would have presented similar petitions, other wise he would have brought forward the subject at a much earlier pe. sind ; at this lare hour of the session, he should therefore only give notice of his intention to submit to the House some proposition on the subject early in the next session, if in the interim some measures should not be adopted by which those exorbitant tolls could be reduced ; preparatory to which he thought it necessary to move, “ That there be laid before the House an account of the manner in which the fum of 500,ocol. granted by the last Parliament of Ireland for promoting the inland navigation of that country, had been disposed of."
Mr. Corry observed, that it was the intention of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland in lay before the House the fullest information on the subject alluded to in the hon. Gerileman's motion.
HOUSE OF LORDS.
FRIDAY, JULY 22. Sir C. Pole brought up from the Commons the Chatham chest bill and the longitude bill, which were reait a first and ordered to be read a second time.
The Highland canal bill was read a third time and passed.
The several bills on the table were forwarded in their respective stages, and the House adjourned till half after two o'clock next day.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
FRIDAY, JULY 22. The additional dury bill on tea exported to Ireland went through a Committee, and the report was ordered for the next day. Also the additional duty biil on quallia, &c. &c.
PORT OF LONDON, &c. The Chancellor of the Exchequer moved the order of the day for the House to resolve itself into a Commitee to consider to much of his Majesty's speech as relates to the accommodation to be afforded to merchants. Previous to the House resolving itself into the Committee,