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great improvements had been made upon that system, and he hoped would be continued. What had been done had satisfied many persons, but it did not satisfy the honourable Gentleman, nor was he surprised at it. He had the honour of knowing him a long time, and was well enough acquainied with his character to be satisfied that what one great Officer said of another may be well applied to him " Magnum refert non quod vult, féd ut quod vult valent." He then proceeded to describe the constitution of the QuarterMaster General's office, which he said was so distributed as to embrace every thing connected with the military service. If the honourable Officer went to that office, he would find that there were depariments in it where all plans of the nature he alluded to were minutely drawn out, and accurately considered, and that enquiries would, perhaps, have saved the honourable Officer the trouble of giving the House such an able military le&ture. He agreed with him, that the French were very well acquainted with this country; but by no means so well as with other countries of Europe, and very little, as it appeared, with the character of the people. The hon. Gentleman advised to fortify London ; he, on the contrary would say, “You ought not to fortify London." When we had a fleet, containing eighty thousand men, and fuch an army as never before was heard of in this country, it would be a libel and disgrace to the people to think of fortifying their metropolis. Before they talked of forrifying London, they ought to wait till some of the enemies' boais actually made their appearance in our roads, though he did not absolutely deny the possibility, or pra&icability, of their coming over in considerable force. But as to the effect of such an attempt, though he fincerely esteemed the high professional abilities of the honourable Officer, he did not know that, in the English service, he had ever been engaged in any combined operations of the army and navy, so as to give him any superior means of judging of the dangers of debarkations. There were three reasons why he thould not attempt to follow the arguments of the honourable Genilemen: ist, Because not being a military man, he was not able to do it ; 2d, Because the hon. Officer did not disapprove of the bill'; and 3d. Because he approved of many of his observations. Though discussions of this kind were not very usual in Parliament, he would make fome allowances for them at a lime when men's minds were fo much occupied by such subje&s; but he must remind the honourable Gentleman, that there had been many other great military Officers, who abstained always from such discussions, as thinking them better subjects for representation to the Executive Government, than for parliamentary lectures ; and the more so, as in that House ihey could have no practical effect whatever. He then contended that several parts of the former speech went upon miscon. ceptions, ihat there was a depot in the Quarter-Master General's office for the preserving and examining of memoirs and military plans, &c. He still infifted that quiet times were the fittest for making changes" in pace para bellum," and not when the hostile armies were, as it were, drawn upia the face of each other.

Mr. Pitt begged the indulgence of the House while he offered a few observations on the statements which the hon. and gallant Officer had introduced. He had no difficulty in saying, that with the greater part of the plans which he had suggested, he most cordially concurred. He wilhed it, however, to be distinctly understood, that these plans were not for the first time iniroduced. Though, during the late war, the danger of invasion had never presented itself in fu formidable a shape, though the enemy had for so long a period an opportunity for looking solely to this object, without being at all distracted by continental hostility, yet a most valuable body of information relative to the most effe&ual means of defending the empire against invasion had, during ihe late war, been collected. That information, he was proud to perceive, had been increasing from year to year, and he truited that it would now increase from month to month, and from hour to hour. During the late war, the danger was unquestionably not fu evident, the plans of the enemy for our destruction were not so clearly developed, but the extent of our preparations was such as thewed, that the defence of the country had engrofled the most serious attention of Government. This was, indeed, an object of such incal. culable importance, that it could not have escaped the serious attention of his Majesty's civil servants, or of ihat illustrious personage who at that period, and forlunately for the country, now presided over the military department. He wished io call particularly thie attention of the honourable and gallant Officer to the steps which were then taken for the security of the country, and to the great military characters to whom this great object was intrusted. The honourable and gillant Officer had insisted on the importance of providing for the


security of our naval arsenals, and pointed out the line of fortification which he conceived to be the best calculated for that purpose. He had exprefled a wish that this line of for: tification thould be extended as far as the Humber. His Majesty's former servants, he begged leave to remind the honourable and gallant Oficer, were not at all inattentive to these objects. On the contrary, they were the subjects of the greatest consideration, and the most accurate provision. The House could not recollect who were the Officers to whom the command in various districts was alligited, with out perceiving that, in such hands, it was utierly impossible ihat the best means of providing for the national security should not have been discussed and arranged. If it were res collected that in the northern part of the illand the country enjoyed the advantage of the talents and experience of Sir Charles Grey--that in the southern district ile Duke of Richmond fuperintended, of whose information and skill on this subject, whatever opinion might be entertained of his sentiments on other subjects, there could exist only one seniiment; that General Dundas had opportunities of being present at the infpeélion of the state of the preparations in all different parts of the country; that an Oficer of whose meriis''he declined froin personal consideration to express what his feelings suggested, had seen and arranged the plari of defence again it invasion in Scotland. If all this was conlidered, he was sure that the honourable and gallant Officei ivould not now coine forward and tell the Houise ihat now, for the first time, plans of national defence were produced ; that now, for the fist time, this great and interesting fubject had attracted the attention, and employed the cares of Government. He was ready to admit that material improvemeriis inight be engrafted on the original plan's of national security. He trusted that they would experience new improvements from day to day, that the system would from day to day receive new form and consistency, that it would not stop thort of that efficient scheme of national Safety, which would for ever set to rest all tlie vaints and threats of a foe whole ambition knew no limits, and whofe spirit of aggression acknowledged no end. When he refected on the exercions which had been already made for the accomplishment of this interesting object--when he considered what had been effected even in the preferit feffion, combined with the zeal and exertions of the illustrious Com. mander in Chief, he had the moft sanguine expectations that Vol. IV. 180:-3.


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our system of national defence would at no very femote period be completed. Already had the foundation of instruction been laid: that the higher ranks in our army had directed their attention feriously to the subject ; that their success had been equal to the warmest hope which could have been entertained. The study of a few months had made many Oncers proficient in all the more difficult details of warfare ; and the effects of this knowledge had been contemplated on the fhores of Egypt, that field of British glory. PoffefTed of the foundation of instruction, we had the means of its most gene, ral diffusion. We had the grounds of its most general application. We had an army greater than we potressed in any former war;' we had augmented it by a new and extraordinary levy; we had to add to it the great mass of the armed population of the country. With all these varied means of protection, properly organized and efectually, even the honourable and gallant Officer himself, who had thewn himself the moft cautious, and the most anxious, for the safety of the country, was ready to allow that we should be absolutely safe. He agreed with the honourable and gallant Officer, that we ought not for a moment to relax our exertions. We had to maintain a great and arduous struggle, but if we supported it with adequate energy and spirit, it would terminate in glory to this country, and Mame and disappointment to the enemy. He took occasion parficularly to allude to what had been thrown out about the filling up of the regular regiments by draughts from the inilitia. He thought that this was a very ungracious meafure, and one which at the present moment it would be highiy inexpedient to resort 10. The privates of the militia, no doubt, feel in common with their countrymen the value of the sacred objects for which they were to contend, and were anxious to have an opportunity of thewing that they would give no place to troops in the fervice of his Majesty in the ardour of their devotion to their country. To call in she militia Officers to aslift in breaking up those corps whose discipline they had, by their afliduity and zeal, completed, would be to injure their sentiments as men, and to wound their feelings as foldiers. They, no donbi, hoped, as the reward of their labours, to leall into the field a body of brave men, ready to sacrifice their lives in punishing the temerity of an ambitious and unprincipled foe. He Tould, therefore, relift any attempt to diffolve the present cftablishment of the mililia.' We liad already viade provision for the supply of


the regular army, and it would be highly impolitic to resort to a measure of ihe nature to which he had referred. At the present moment generous emulation should be encouraged, but any thing like rivalship, founded in considerations of jealousy, coold not fail to be highly pernicious,

The right hon Gentleman declared that he felt ex!remely happy at seeing that strong and ardent spirit of loyalıy and of patriotism which was now evidently pervading every rank of society throughout the kingdom. It was first lit up in the north, from thence it was seen to kindle in the capital, and it was now carching from town to town, from village to village, and to cvery hamlet within the ifland, and he had every reason to hope that it would in a short time manifest itself in one universal blaze throughout the empire in such brightnels of fplendour, as would not only dazzle and dismay, the proud usurper, and make him thake upon his throne, but that would allo be the admiration and wonder of all sura rounding nations. Yet, much as he approved of the conduct and patriotism of the militia in general, and of the public at large, for the disposition which they had manifested on the prelent occafion, he fill thought it would be adviseable that iwo or three officers thould be taken from the half-pay, and added to every one officer that should be appointed for the new levies by virive of other orders; by that incans we would be enabled to bring forward a large, effective, and tractable force, which would, by adopting that method, be ready much sooner, and be more capable

of opposing with effect any invader, than they possibly could by any other mode. The honourable Colonel, although he had thought proper to apologise to the House for troubling them, as he had termed it, with the observations which he had just delivered, had moft honourably discharged his duty-it wa, his duiy as an Englishman, it was a duty which he owed to that House as one of its Members, to deliver whatever important thoughis might occur to his mind at this momentous crisis, and it was above all most particularly his duiy while he stood in that situation, to make the House acquainted with what were the opinions entertained by, and what the modes of remedying the ihreatened danger, which occurred to the mind of so able an officer as the hon. Genileman himself undoubia edly was, and who had liad such great and repeated opportunities of acquiring a knowledge of the powers, the practice, and the ideas of the enemy, and who had also such frequent opportunities of hearing the opinions of the first military mnen

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