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family in question would have excited the compassion, would have awakened the juft and genercus feelings of every perfon within this House. It was, no doubt, a melancholy circumstance, that the House was under the necessity of voting the sum of 60,000l. towards the wants and neceslities of the Prince of Orange, at a time like the present, when our own exigencies were so great; but the propriety and even the justice of the claim he hoped would be listened to by the House. The money which we had received, and the liberties which we were in possession of by means of that illustrious family, were confiderations which, he trusted, would have their due weight. The hon. Member had ftated, that no argument had been brouglıt forward in fupport of the claim. He thought his noble Friend faid luf. ficient, when in his appeal to the House he stated the arrangement which was to take place, provided this country furrendered the Thips which were taken in Holland. After these thips had been so retained, they were to operate as a claim of 220,0001, which was to be advanced by this country. The occupation of Holland by the French, however, soon prevented any indemnification being made at that time, by a fenfe of honour and other confiderations; but we thould at least fee, that the Prince of Orange Thould not be a sufferer by such a conduct. His noble Friend made an appeal to the generosity of the people of this country, and itated that we had stood in the way of an arrangement, which would have opened, to the advantage of the noble personage whose case we were considering.

Mr. IV. Smith faid, that there was certainly a very powerful, and perhaps irresistible appeal made in this case, and he 1hould not be the first to refute any grant claimed upon the ground of the compaflion or the gratitude of this country to that illustrious family. Upon these grounds he admitted their claims in the fulleft extent, but when Gentlemen spoke of justice, they admitted a fort of confution, or at least mixture of ideas. His plain and fimple objection was of a different nature. The Parliament was now fitting later ihan usual, on the 26th of July, and this mealure was deferred till a period when a very thin attendance muft necefsarily be expected. The sum of 60,0001. and 16,000). a year was not a tritte in itself, and was of Nill greater importance as a precedent. Yet, though the French should be even at our doors, he would not object, were it absolutely a claim of generosity and justice. But he would alk, why

pass pass a vote in the end of July, which would answer the same purpose in November next? It did not appear that there was any regular or presling necessity for the grant now, and there could be no doubt of the House being fully as responsible and well able to pay the money in November, after having had sufficient time to examine into all the circumItances.

Lord Hawkesbury said, he could see no objedion to such a measure as this on account of a thin attendance, when there was business of such extreme importance before Parliainent, as the defence and the property bill. The reason why it was not brought forward before, was only because his Majesty's Ministers were hitherto so very much occupied wih other business. With regard to the postponement, he said, he had reason to think that the vote now proposed would be more acceptable to that illustrious family as present, than a much larger fum if delayed for another year.

Ms. Smith replied, that he did not propose it to be delayed for another year, but till November nexi, which would be no more than the space of ihree months.

The resolution for the grant of 60,000l. was agreed to nem. con.

Lord Hawkesbury then said, that he was under a misapprehension when he stated, that the annuity inult require a separate Committee; and finding that it might be passed with equal regularity now, he would lose no time, but move, that there be granted to his Majesty, out of ihe consolidated fund, the annual sum of 16,00ol. as an indemnity to the illustrious House of Orange.

Mr. II’m. Smith proposed to get rid of his motion, by moving, that the Chairman do leave the chair ; which was immediately negatived, and the resolution carried.

On the motion for the sum of 2,000,000l, to be granted as a vote of credit,

Mr. John/one said, the Minister on a former day, accord. ing to a report which he then held in his hand, had given a pledge that twenty-six millions would be sufficient for the service of the ensuing year. To sew that this pledge could not be redeemed, he stated, that in the year 1800, ihe expence was 32,000,oool. and in the year ensuing 38,000,000l. for Great Britain only, which, with the 5,000,oool. from Ireland, amounted to the sum of 43,000,000l. and he could not see how it was possible that we could go on at a cheaper


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sate now, when we were to have an infinitely greater establishment

The Chancellor of the Exchequer replied, that the newspaper report alluded to, must have been grossly inaccurate, if it Rated him to say, that the expences of the year would be no more than 26.000.oool. for though he might reasonably be supposed to know at the lime what were the intentions of Government in regard to the augmentation of our force, he could not have anticipated what might have been the decision of Parliament. What he really stated the expences of the year he estimated at, was about 30,000,oool or 26,000,00ol. exclusive of Ireland. This arose from the estimate of 10,000,000l. from the previous produce of the consolidated fund, 10,000,000l. from the Cusioms, and 10,000,000l. more, which he proposed to raise in this country as a war tax.

The resolutions were agreed to, the report ordered to be received the next day, and the Commitiee of Supply ordered to fit again on Wednesday.

WAYS AND MEANS. The Charcellor of ihe Exchequer prefaced the resolutions he had 10 propose, by observing, thai at an early period of the year, it was proposed to raise 3,000,000l. for the payment a like fum advanced by the Bank, of which 1,500,cool. had been actually paid; but, in consequence of the renewal of the war, an application was made to induce them to take the remainder in Exchequer bills, which was agreed to for the public convenience. He then proceeded to make his several statements to the Committee.

Estimate of the Surplus of the consolidated fund to 5th of January, 1804: To al sum proposed to be voted to the 5th of of Jan. 1804

£6,500,000 Received on Jan. 5, 1853, after completing the grant for the service of 1802

309,329 Received on April 5,.1803

1,037,332 on July 5, 1803, (nearly) 1,186,000



Remains 10 make good 3,877,339

Income for two Cuarters to Jan. 5,

1804, together supposed double the

July O&t. 1804

July quarter, 1803, (adding 200,000l.
for the expected produce of duties,

17,650,000 Deduct charge on O&. 10,

1803, supposed equal to April 5, 1803, afier de. ducing 198,500l. paid in that quarier for the halfyearly dividend to Oct. 1802, to those who had not completed their payments before the 7th of

5,560,500 Ditto, 5th Jan. supposed

equal to July 1803, with the addition of 320,0col. for the charge of a new loan


13,418,500 Expected surplus in two quarters, ending 5th Jan. 1804

4,231,500 Deduct the sum remaining to be made guod

3,877,339 Estimated surplus above the proposed grant

354,161 N. B. The only articles of extraordinary receipt

in the quarter, ending 5th July, were arrears of convoy duty and income duiy, amounting together to 341,7061.

The produce of permanent taxes, in the quarter ending the 5th of July, compared with their produce in the two succeeding quarters for the four last years, omitting the duties imposed on each year respeclively, as appears by the following table : 1799

Increase. Diminution. Quarter ended 5th July, 5,488,802


10,977,604 Toth O&ober, 6,865,440 5th Jan. 1800, 6,329,507

13,194,947 2,217,343


Increase. Diminution. 5th July,



11,391,238 Ioth October

5,838,793 5th Jan. 1801, 5,810,471

11,649,264 258,026 1801. 5th July,



11,256,000 10th Od. and 5th Jan. 1802 12,518,000

1,262,000 5th July,



10th and 5th Jan. 1803



Increase in 3 years
Deduct diminution



3,567,369 Average increase

891,842 The following resolutions were moved and agreed to:

“]. That towards raising the sum of two millions voted in the Committee of Supply, the sum of 1,500,000l. be raised out of the consolidated fund, and be supplied by Excheqoer bills.

“ 2. That towards payment of money advanced by the Bank, the sum of two millions be also raised by loans of Ex. chequer bills, to be made good next year.

"3. That it appears that the sum of 1,500,000l. stands as the surplus of the consolidated fund."

The House resumed, and the report was ordered to be received the next day.

The House went into a Committee on the curates' bill, and the report was ordered to be received the next day. The Chanciller of the Exchequer moved, that the House


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