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part of the country where he lived; and he was of opinion, that, not withstanding the partial instance of insurrecrivin and horrid outrage which had recently occurred, the spirit of insurrection was by no means general in Ireland, and so far as it did exist, was confined to the lowest orders of the people.

Mr. Kerr observed, that the firvalion of the people of lieland had been materially allered for the betier lince the union, though there were still lurking the seeds of rebellion. He believed if the enemy were to land in Ireland, they would find as determined an oppofirion as from any class of subjects in his Majesty's dominions. He had lived in Ireland during the late rebellion, and was in a private corps, and he could assure the House that mariial law was never exercised with severity Upon the representation of himself, and some other Gentlemen, couris marijal were reported 10, and they had the effect of eradicating the rebellion as to all outward appearance.

Mr. 7. H. Browke said, he should not have troubled the House unless an idea had been thrown out that they were acting in confidence iu his Majesty's Ministers. He ihought thai to call persons in Ireland before courts martial, on the allertion of his Majesty's Ministers, was juftifiable. . He was fully convinced of the neceility of the measure, and that there ought not to be a momeni's delay ; but this conviation was not in consequence of any ihing his Majesty's Ministers had said. It was in consequence of the atrocious act that had been commilied, and not from inai act alone, horsid as it was. He accompanied the act with the sad history of the last ten years; with the recent war in which we bad recently been engaged; with the efforts of the ufurper of France, against our liberties; with the measures that had engaged every hand and heart in their defence. , If he did not believe a syllable of what his Majesty's Ministers laid, the fact spoke for itself. He though it

He thought it was of importance to whom the power was given. The present Government of Ireland, by not wishing to avail themselves of the alarm by continuing the a&ts, thewed that they would not make a bad use of them if they were renewed. Plc. fupported the measure with more pleasure, when he confidesed the chafacter of the present Government.

Dr. Laurence, al considerable length, supported the argu. ments of Mr. Windham. Mr. Hutchinson explained what he had before said, and


spoke at considerable length on a variety of topics. He wished that vigorous measures should be exerted for putting down rebellion in the first instance, but that measures of lenience and humanity should not be abandoned. - He deprecated most ardently the revival of those horrid scenes of whipping, shooting, and strangling, and houle-burning, that dusing the late rebellion had been carried to enormous lengths, to the production of so much misery amongst the unfortunate people of that country, by entrusting the execution of Mrong measures to the hands of exasperated, prejudiced, and fanguinary men ; and which tended rather to produce and to exaggerate than to suppress rebellion. Ile had witnelled many of thofe horrid scenes, and he congratulated that House that their eyes had been spared the painful view of such horrors. He earnestly befought the House not to turn away its eyes from the complaints, whether real or imaginary, that agitated the minds of the unhappy multitude in that country ; but that, instead of separating, late as it was in the season, they would investigate, and probe to the quick, those questions and mealures which could have, by possibility, a tendency to suppress every disposition to discontent and tumuli, by quiet rather than by coercive means; and he concluded by conjuring the House to turn its eyes to that country, as one which was capable of being rendered a source of impregnable strength and riches 10 the British Empire ; but which, if not fully conciliated, by wife and lenient means, might be perverted to the contrary...

Lord Caftler agh observed, that the proof this measure was not to be loosely committed to the hands of those likely to misconceive of abuse its intentions was, shat it was velted entirely in the discretion of the Lord Lirutenant. With refpect to the acts of severity ailuded to by the hon. Mem. ber, they were unfortunately mutual, and the natural consequence of the mutual enmity and exasperation between two parties in the same country, armed and at war against each other. He spoke at considerable length in support of the bill.

Dr. Laurence said, that on a former occasion he had opposed a bill for continuing martial law in Ireland. But the present measure was one for which he could conscientioully vote. That atrocious outrage by which the life of the first legal magistrate in the country had been taken away, was a circumstance which peculiarly pointed to a measure of this kind.


Colonel Craufurd approved of the measure ; because it was efsentially necessary to strengthen the hands of the Government. He then began to enter into some observations concerning fortifications, when the question was loudly called for, and several Members called him to order.

The Speaker said he could not conceive how the hon. Gentleman's arguments applied to the bill before the House.

Mr. Windham and Dr. Laurence contended that Colonel Craufurd was in order:

Mr. Bragge inaintained that he was not'; particularly so after he had expressed his approbation of the bill.

Colonel Craufurd then said, that as he was prevented from delivering his sentiments on so important a subject, he would give notice that on Monday he should bring forward a motion relative to the defence of the realm.

Leave was given to bring in the bill, which was brought up by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, read a first and Tecond time, and committed.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer, in the Committee, in. troduced a clause by which no court martial should conlist of less than seven officers. ' Mr. Hutchinson complained that many persons hitherto tried before courts martial in Ireland had been treated with great injustice; and prevented from having the witnesses necellary for their defence.

Lord Caftlereagh denied the statement. He never knew an instance in which a trial was not put off, upon a representation being made that the necessary witnesses were not present.

And he knew that Lord Cornwallis, when Lord · Lieutenant, had always read over the minutes of every court

martial, in order to see that no unjust proceeding had taken place. It would therefore he better to leave this inatter 10 The direction of those who were responsible.

Mr. Ormesby faid, he had acted as Judge Advocate on a great number of courts martial, and he could assure the House, that the prisoners had always

had notice given them of their trials, and might put them off, if they chose, to any particular day. This was the pra&tice after the rebellion ; but he knew not what might have been done in the camp flagrante bello.

The Chuncellor of the Exchequer faid, it was very necessary that no unfavourable impression on this fubject Thould go out into the world, and he called on the hon, Gentleman to state any particular instances which be koew VOL. IV. 1802-3:


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lof improper and violent proceedings being adopted by courts martial towards the persons whom they tried.

Mr. ffatchinfon entered into a justification of his conduct and his principles, but did not specify any faas in support of his assertion. - The report of the bilt was then received, and it was read a third time and passed." : The Chancellor of the Exchequer then obtained leave to bring in a bill to enable the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to fecure and detain such perluns as he should suspect to be conspiriug against his Majesty's person and government.

The bilt was brought up, carried through all its stages, and passed. A clause was introduced into this, as well as into the former bill, for limiting the duration of both to fix weeks after the commencement of the next session of Parliament. The bills were sent to the Lords, and about half past ten o'clock, a message came down, informing the House that the Lords had agreed to the fame without any amendment.

Lord Castlereagh put off his India budget until the next day.

The Dover pilots bill and the alien bill were read a second time.

The further consideration of the English and Scotch assessed taxes bill was postponed till Monday,

Mr. Alexander brought up the report on the property bill.

Mr. Vanfittart brought up a clause respecting an allow. ance to perfons having more than two children. The clause was agreed to. The bill ordered to be engrossed, and read a third time the next day.

The House went into a Committee on the receipt duty bill, which was paffcd.

On the further confideration of the poor curates' bill, the Chancellor of the Exchequer inoved that it be an inItruction to the Committee to make certain allowances.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, he should propose that the House do the next day go into a Committee on the consolidation of ftamps.

In the prize courts bill, Sir Wm. Scott moved, that certain annuities should be granted upon the refignation of the Judges of the Vice-Admiralty courts of Bermuda, the Bahamas, and Malta. A conversation ensued, in which Mr. Burrowes, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Mr. Johnstone took part. Mr, Burrowes wishing for the estab


lishment of Vice-Admiralty Courts at Madras, Bengal, and Bombay ; the Chancellor of the Exchequer urged that it was his Majesty's prerogative to establish Courts where he pleased ; and perhaps such a measure might be under conlideration at the present moment.

The Attorney General gave notice of a motion he should make the next day, relative to the regulation of the Courts of Canada. mabilis ri The Chancellor of the Exchequer moved certain resolutions, founded on several accounts that were on the table, relative to supply. Adjourned. spiss Dot!


FRIDAY, JULY 29 About two o'clock the House met, and the royal af was given by commiffion to the Irish martial law bill, and the Lith babeas corpus suspension bill. The commissioners were bis Royal Highness the Duke of Cumberland, the Lord Chancellor, and Lord Walfingham.

Counsel was afterwards heard on the Scotch appeal, Hogg v. Lalhley

Several bills were brought up from the Commons, and read the first time.

The bills on the table weré proceeded in. Adjourned..

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FRIDAY, JULY 29. Mr. Speaker took the chair at half past one; and shortly afterwards a message from the Lords by Mr. Quarme, defired the attendance of this Houle at the bar of the House of Peers, to hear his Majesty's commission read, for declara ing the royal assent to certain bills.

Mi. Speaker, accoinpanied by several Members, attended forthwitli; and being returned, reported to the House, that the royal afsent had been declared io the Irish martial law, and habeas corpus fufpenfion bills, and fix other public and private bilis.

The Prince of Orange's annuity bill was read the second time and committed for the next day; and the Scotch cotton manufacture bill was read a third time, passed, and ordered to the Lords, together with a copy of the evidence upon which the House was induced to pais the bill. 4 2 2


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