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Read a fecond time the Irish tea importation bill, and committed for Monday.

STAMP DUTIES.

The House resolved into a Committee to consider of the duties on vellum and parchment.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, the measure he had to propose was founded on the same principle as that which the House liad already fanctioned in the consolidation of the duties of excise, customs and afseffed taxes. The object of the proposition he had now to submit to the House would be a consolidation of the duties only, without any alteration as to their amount. A new schedule would be constructed, by which the trouble of the officers would be diminished at least two-thirds, and the collection of the duties, of course, greatly facilitated. The only new regulation which it was necessary for him to notice, was one relative to the employment of improper stamps. "Great inconvenience had arisen to many persons, from using fuch stamps inadvertently. Where the stamp was inferior in value to that which ought to have been uled, it was his in, tention that, the instrument should, in all cafes, remain illegal; but where the stamp was of equal value, though not applicable to the deed, it was evident there could have been no intention to defraud, and some relief seemed due to the parties who had fallen into such a mistake in advertently. He should not propose to make such a ftamp legal, except upon paying a double duty....A contract having an improper stamp, though not inferior in value to the right one, was not to be considered valid, bat might be rendered fo. When this measure was completed, the House would have the consolation to reflect, that in the course of one feffion four great branches of the public revenue had been greatly improved by the adoption of a system of confulida. tion. It was true that the present measure involved only a detached part of the stamp duties, but it would lay a foundation for the consolidation of the whole in the next feffion of Parliament. He then proposed a resolution for confolidating the said duties.

Mr. Francis remarked, that the honourable Gentleman had mentioned only his intention of giving relief to persons who had used improper ftamps of equal value to the legal one. He must know that great inconveniencies had also arisen

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The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, it was also intended to provide for that case in the Committee on the bill.

The resolution was agreed to, the report received, and leave given to bring in a billy for consolidaring the duties on ftamps on vellum and parchmens.

["0"yo 5991.! COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY-CIVIL LISTopta's On the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the House resolved into a Committee of Supply; and several peritions, estimates, and other papers on the iable, were rem ferred to the Committee.

The Chancellor of the Exchequr stared, that the fout sums he hould first move, were füms só teimburse the civil list forlike fums, ordered to be advanced therefrom by his Majesty, pursuant to votes of this House; and he therefore moved, To Mathew Martus, Esq.

£639 176 To Ch. Th. Felton, Elg.

534 15. O To William Chinnery, Esq. for the expence of transporting convicts

. To ditto for expences at Norfolk island

o For printing the journals, bills, and votes uf the House of Commons for last year

3,000 To discharge arrears of the police offices

обо 8 6 To Mr. Soane, archited, for plans and eleva

tions for repairs and new buildings in the Hou fe of Lords in the year 1794-5

1,000 To make good a defalcation of a subscriber to The lottery

240 0 Fees and expences disbursed to Dr. Jenner, by

order of this Houle, in order to nett him the fum voted for his valuable discovery of the vaccine inoculation

725 To the Board of Agriculture

300.0 To the British Museum

3,000 To the Veterinary College

1,500 0 The chairman left the chair and was ordered to report i he next day; and the Committees of Supply and Ways and Means were further deferred to Monday.

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CLERGY OF IRELAND., Mr. Corry moved the order of the day for the House to refolve into Committee, to consider the expediency of enabling the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to advance out of the public treasury to the board of firft fruits, to be by Thern advanced in loans to clergymen having finall benefices, and no glebe houses, to erect glebe houses for their relidencz.

The House resolved accordingly. Mr. Corry then entered into a chronological detail of the inftitution of the hoard of first fruits in Ireland, froin the time of its inftitution, in the reign of, Queen Anne, to the presenu vime; in the course of which he stated, that is principal revenues were derived from charges upon the anoual income of church livings beyond a certain amount ; to be appropriated for the building and repair of churches, a purpose to which their revenues were not adequate to the extent which was molt desirable; but toward this purpose they were in the babli of receiving annually from the Irish Parliameol a confiderable donation. He then went into a summary statement of their accounts, by the last of which it appeared, they had a balance in hand of-37;000l. The purpose for which this bill war introduced, was nearly to the full as desirable as that of the building and repair of churches, and one which must con: tribule in an effectual way to procure that which was juftly held 10 be so very desirable, namely, the residence of the clergy. He moved, that the Chairman be instincted to move for a sum not exceeding 50,cocl. for that purpose.

Mr. Francis withed to know if the fums to be advanced in this way would not be to advanced under fone competent furety, that they would be expended bona fide for the pue: poses to which they were so granted! He observed, that by the account stated by the hon. Gentleman, there was already a very large balance in the hands of the board of first fruits, remaining from year to year unappropriated, and which, had it been placed in the public funds, would have considerably accumulated for the benefit of the objects of the institution. 11 was his wish that every reasonable means should be af. forded for maintaining the respectabili'y of the Church of Irelant, and the comforts of its clergy ; because he was sure fuch plovilion must materially contribute to the muintenance of morality in that country. But there was another point 'connected with this topic, which he defired to touch on only with the greatest delicacy. He himself did not pretend to

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know the local circumstances of Ireland, or the causes of ihat rebellious fpirit which was now again breaking out in that kingdom. He understood, from the candid opinions of those who knew the local circumstances of what country infinitely better than he did, and who, he was convinced, had the unity, the prosperity, and the happiness of the Briritti Empire at heárt, that the greatest grievance complained of by the grear majority of the population of Ireland, who were Roman Catholics, was the exaâion of rithes for the main tenance of the clergy of the Church of England, at the same time that they were tithed in another way for the maintes nance of their own clergy; and thus were they doubly faddled with an heavy impoft. He did not pretend to point out what would be the most proper mode of remedying this evil, and of quieting the minds of the great mafs of Irish population ; but he most sincerely wilhed some mode could be devised for doing away this obnoxions impoft upon the , catholics of that country, and thus obviating that which had so long and so uniformly proved a source of discontent and irritation. : "It this could be done, and he by no means wilhed it to be done in any way injurious to the establithed clergy, he was convinced it would do mote towards quieting the minds of the lower orders in that country, than any other mean's which legiflation or coercion could effia; and he trusted that, even late as it was in the Sellion, his Majesty's. · Ministers would institute some parliamentary investigation on the subject, with a view to the adoption of fome efficient measure.

Sir 7. Metcalfe rose to ask fome questions about the ar rears in the hands of the board of first fruits, and why they were not appropriated?

Mr. Corry answered, he was not prepared to stare minutely the reafons why they suffered their money to be lenfe in the hands of a bánkat. All he could now fay was, that they were obliged annually to stare their accounts to the Com. missioners; and as they were in the habit also of annually receiving a consideratite donation froin the Irish Parlant nt, the mult prefome their accounts were farisfactory.

Mr. Hutchinson fait, no man more sincerely withird thana he did to mainiain the respectability of the Proteftanı Church of 1reland, and the comforts of iis paftors; bær he most cordially concurred with the 'hon. Member ficar him (Mr. Francis) in the urgent and important neceflity of going iniro fome investigation upon the fubject of Ireland, previoutly to

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the approaching prorogation, and endeavour' to come at the true cause of the unhappy disturbances, and of suggefting, if possible, some lenient remedy. He had already three or four times in the course of this Seffion endeavoured to call the ai. tention of the House, and of his Majesty's Ministers in particular, to the subject of Ireland. He had endeavoured to Impress upon them the importance, at all times, but more especially at the present, of attaching to this country and its Government the confidence and affections of that people. He had endeavoured to impress upon them, that there they would find a tower of strength, with the aid of which they might defy the enmity of the world. He would now put it again to his Majesty's Ministers; and if he could pot obtain from them a promise that they would before the prorogation, bring forward for inquiry the subject of Irilh affairs, with a view to some remedy, he pledged himself thar he would at an carly day bring forward the subjeđ, feeble as his efforts might be.- Mr. Hutchinson was proceeding, but was called to order three successive times by Mr. Alexander, who said it was not from any opposition to the hon. Gentleman's proposal he did so, but to remind him, that his notice would come more regularly as a distinct proceeding, as it was not orderly in the Committee.)

Mr. Corry's motion was agreed to, and the Chairman ofdered to report the next day.

MILITIA. Mr. Sheridan rose to explain something that had fallen from him on a former evening, which had been misconceived, and he was sure unintentionally mistated. I was in relation to the imperfect state of the mililia regimenis in Kent and Surry, which circumstance he was stated to have charged upon the negligence of the Magistrates of these counties. But he did not impute the circumstance to their negligence, or to the noble Lords at the head of the Lieutenancy in those counties; and he had indeed the authority of one noble Lord (Lord Grantley) to doclare, that the d-ficiency arose from a defeet of law to enable the Lieutenants to enforce the returns from the deputy officers. He trusted, however, the next returns froin those counties would prove the militia in a much less defective state ; and he wilhed to know from the right hon. Secretary at War, whether it was intended to adopt ang measure to render the law more efficient; as, if it was noi, be Mould move for a return of the whole militia of the

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