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made also by your Highnes to the Generall Councell afor my Lord of Tinchester, which his Holynes delyvered to his Datarie commanding hym to rede theym. Notyng and marking well all Manner and Contentes thereof : and noo lesse offended therbie then he was with the oother. In the reding whereof came in the Cardinal de Medices, whiche stoode bare headed contynually during the reding thereof, casting down his Hede to the Grounde, and not a litle marvelling, as it appered unto me, that the Pope was so troubled and mourned. When this was doon, his Holynes said that forasmuch as this was a Matter of great Weyght and Importance, towching alsoe the Cardinalls, he woold consulte and deliberate with them hereupon in the Consistorie, and afterwardes gif me Answer therein. I contented therewith, desired ferther his Holynes that forasmuch as he had hard all the Provocations and Apelles, seying also the Original Writings thereupo?, that I might have thym again ; bycause I said I must aswell to the Cardinales as alsoe to other Judges and Persons havyng Interest, make Intimation accordingly, His Holynes in the Begynnyng was precise that I should in noe wise have thym ; but they to remain with hym. Nevertheles afterward perceyvyng that I much stode upon it, he answered and said that like wise as concernyng the Provocations and Appelles with my Petition concernyng the same, he entended to giff me Answer after that he had consulted with the Cardinalles in the Conşistorie, so alsoe he entended to doo accordyng redelyver.. ing of the said Writings. And hereupon departed from him about Eight of the Clocke in the Nyght, havying remayned afar mor than three Howers, I repayred to my Lord of Winchester and other your Highnes Ambassadors here, telling them what I had doon, and what Answer also was giffen unto me.
On the Morowe following, which was Saatterday, albeit ther was Consistorie, yet the same was extraordinarie, chiefly for the Declaration of the newe Cardinalles, the Bishop of Beziers, the Bishop of Langres, the great Maysters Nevew, and the Duke of Albanie his Brother. And in the said Consistorie as far as I could learn ther was nothing specially spoken or determyned concernyng the said Provocations and ppelles, or Answer to be given unto the same. Upon Sonday the ixth of this present at after noone havyng the said Mr. Penyston with me I repayred to the Palace, and spake ther with the Datarie to knowe when I should have Answer of the Pope, and he told me that the Day following shuld be the Consistorie, and that the Pope after the same would gift me Answer, and albeit that the said Datarie thus said unto me, yet willing to be sure, I induced on Carol de Blanchis my great Ac.
quaintance and one of the chieff Cameraries with the Pope, to enquire of his Holynes when I should receive and have Answer to the Provocations and Appelles, with other things purposed afor by me unto his Holynes. And his Holynes gave unto hym to be declared unto me the self same Answer that the Datarie afor had gyven unto me, whereupon I departed for that Day.
Apon Monday the xth of this was ordinary Consistorie, and thider I, having with me the said Mr. Penyston, repayred. Tarieng ther alsoo unto the Tyme that all were commaunded furth, savyng the Cardinals: And understanding then eftsones by the Datarie that I must come agayne at Afternoone for Answer, I did for that Tyme departe, resorting at Afternoon unto the Palace, and after that I had taried ther ij Howers, in the Chamber next unto the Pope, which all that Tyme continually was occupied in Blessing of Bedes, Giving his Blessing, and suffering the Ladies and Nobles of the Court to kiss his Foot : I was called in unto hym, ther beyng ther only in the Chamber Cardinal Salviati and the Datarie. At my comyng he said unto me, Domine Doctor quid vultis? And I told his Holynes that I loked for Answer acording as his Holynes had promised me afor. And then he said that his Mynde towards your Highnes alwayes hath been to mynister Justice, and do Pleasure unto you, albeit it hath not been so taken. And he never injustely griefed your Grace that he knoweth, nor entendeth hereafter to doo. And as concernyng the Appellations made by your Highnes unto the General Counsel, he said that forasmuche as ther was a Constitution of Pope Pius his Predecessor, that did condemne and reprove all such Appelles, he therfor did reject your Grace Appeales as frivolous, forbidden, and unlawful. touching the Generall Councel, he woold doo his best Deligence therin that it should take Effect ; repeting agayn how in Tymes passed he had used alwayes Diligence for that Purpose, writing therein to all Christen Princes, your Highnes yet not answering thereunto, but remitting his Nuncio to the French King. Which notwithstanding he saith he wool yet do his Duty, and procure the best he can that it shall succeede, nevertheles adding that he thought when it were well considered, that the King of England ought not, nor had Autoritie to call any General Councel, but that the Convoking thereof apperteyned unto his Holynes. Finally concluding, that for his Part he woold alwayes do his Dutie as apperteyned. And as concernynge the Restitution of the Publique Writings made upon the Provocation and Appelles forsaid, he said he woold not Vol. II, Part II.
restore theym, but woolů kepe theym, and that safely. Saying therwithal, that I might have them when I woold, ub Episcopo Vintoniensi, and other afor whom they were made, as many as I woold. And albeit that I shewed hym his own Lawe to be, that he coued not detayne them, yet he saying that it was but de Lana Caprina, and refusing to make Redeliverie therof, commanded the Datarie only to gife me the Answere in Writinge, and soo bade me fare well.
Goyng with the Datarie to his Chamber for that Purpose, I perceyved ther that the Answer was alredy writ, howbeit that it was not touching so many Thinges as the Pope had by Mouth afor declared unto me, ne yet subscribed with the Dataries Hande, acording to the accustomed maner. And requyring the Datarie to make it perfect, and delyver it unto me subscribed with his Hande; He willed me to come the Day folowyng early in the Mornyng, and I shuld have it. Whereapon I deperted, and came in the Mornyng to the Dataries Chamber in the Palace, but he was goon afor to the Pope. Wherefor repayring to the Popes Cham. ber and fynding him ther, I requyerd the said Answer in Writing. And he goyng with me to his Charober, dely vered me for Answer the self-same that was written the Day befor, adding only in the Ende these Words, Et hæc ad præsens, salvo Jure, latius et particularius si videbimus respondendi ; Subscribing the same with his own Hande, keping one other Copie with hymself, Which had, without hope of any other as then, I repaired to my Lord of Winchester, and other your Highe Ambassadours, to shew theym al thé same,
And by this your Highnes may now perceyve, whether that the Pope will staye Process apon any your Provocations or Appelles, howsomever they be made, or after what Sorte they be intymated unto hym, and allso whether that unto such Tyme he receive Inhibition from the General Councel, his Process shall be taken in Lawe as nought. I feare that at his Returne to Rome, he will doo much Displeasure, if by some good Policy he be not stay'd. The Original Answer delivered unto me by the Datary forsaid,
doe at this Tyme send unto your Highnes, only retaynyng with me the Copie thereof.
And syne albeit your Graces Commandement, declared by your Letters dated at Chatham the xth of August last passed, sent unto me seemed to be, that Devysing some Busyness of my own, I shuld folowe alwayes and be present where the Pope resorteth, sttll residing and demouring, noting, marking and enserching what is doon, and
gyving your Highnes diligent Advertisement thereof, as the Case and Importance of the Mater shuld require; yet for as much as in this late Congress, ther was nothing in maner doon by the Pope at the Contemplation of any in your Highnes Favour, and that the Appellations and Provocations of your Highnes being intimated, it is not like any thing of great Moment to be loked for, especially all Things standing as they do ; I not knowyng your Higlines ferther determinat Pleasure, and thinking that by reason of the Premisses, your Highnes wooid not that I shuld ferther interprise in that behalf, have therfor (the Pope beyng soon towardes Rome from hence the twelfth of this present) taken my Jorney towards Lyon's the thirteenth of the same, your Highnes Ambassadors by reason of the Departure of the French Kinges soe alsoe doyng : And from thence I intend towards your Graces Realme, unless I receive your Commands to the contrarie.
To declare unto your Highnes, in what Perplexitie and Anxietie of Mynde I was in until that this Intimation was made, what Zele and Affection I have born therein, how glad I woold have been such Things might have comen to pass, which your Highnes so much hath desired, and generally of all my Doyngs here, without Fear or Displeasure of any Man, it shall not be needful, Partely bycause I trust yuur Highnes dowteth not thereof, and partely bycause the Bearer hereof, untill Mr. Brian, to whom I moost accompte my self much bounden unto, will I suppose at large declare all the same, with other things here doing; of whom your Highnes I doute not shall perceyve that although the Frenchmen were made pryvey of our Doyngs concernyng the Intimation, and in Maner willing the same, two or three Dayes afor the Popes Departure, yet now for Excuse they saye that all their Matters and yours also be destroyed therby. And thus most humblie I recommend me unto your Highnes, beseeching Almighty God to conserve the same in Felicity many Yeares.
From Marselles, the xiith of Novembre, 1533.
Crunmer's Letter, for an Appeal to be made in his Name. An
Original. (Cotton Library, Cleop. E. 6. P. 234.) In my right harty maner I commend me to you. So it is (as ye know right well) I stande in drede, lest our Holy Father the Pope do entende to make some maner of prejudicial processe against me and my Church, and therfore having probable Conjectures therof, I have provoked from his Holyness to the General Counsell, accordingly as the King's Highness and his Counsell have advised me to do; which my Provocation and a Procuracie under my Seale, I do send unto you herwith, desiering you right hartely to have me commended to my Lord of Winchester, and with his Advise and Counsell to intimate the said Provocation, after the best maner that his Lordship and you shall think most expedient for me. I am the bolder thus to write unto you, because the King's Highnes commanded me thus to do, as ye shall (I trust) further perceve by his Graces Letters, nothing doubting in your Goodness, but at this myne owne desier ye woll be contented to take this Peynes, tho' his Highness shall percase forget to write unto you therin: which your Peynes and kindness (if it shall lye in me in tyme to come to recompense) I woll not forget it with God's Grace, who presearve you as my self. From Lambeth, the xxijd Day of November.
XXV. A Minute of a Letter sent by the King to his Ambussador at
(Ex MS. Rymeri.) Trusty and Right-welbiloved, we grete youe wel. And for asmuch as not only by the Relacion and Reaperte of our Trusty Chaplain Maister Doctor Boner, but also by certayne Letters writtyn by Sir Gregory, afore the Dispeche of Doctor Bonor, uppon the lyvely Communications had by the Pope to the Emperor, in Justification and Favour of our Cause ; by wych it appereth unto us, that his Holyness favering the Justice of our Great Cause, maketh Countnance and Demonstracion now to shew himself more