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ing his surprise, to hear sucli a conclufion in direct contra. di&tion to the train of argument with which it was commenced. He thought, that in the present fituation of the country, there was a greator Thare of merit attachable to those who supported Government, than could be attributed to the Government itself.-Notwithstanding all that had been said against the present bill, he, for one, was really convinced in his own inind, that it was one which was more likely to be cffetual for the purposes intended, than any which could be proposed. He thought, liowever, that it might be rendered more palatable, were it to be left op: tional on the part of the men afterwards to enrol themselves into other corps ; for we were to look to their patriotism, and we thould in the end have every benefit patriotism could afford.

Colonel Craufurd rose, and expressed the feelings with which he was then impressed, on hearing sentiments delivered with such freedom relative to the opinion he had given on the occasion alluded to by some hon. Members. He stated that he had never, on any former occafion, presumed to offer his sentiments to the House on malters of such material iniportance, nor even, he might say, to ad. dress the Chair on any subject whatever. He appealed to the House, whether or not it was proper to permit such observations to be made on the opinion which the urgent situation of the country called upon him to express; and if found irregular, he felt himself called on to crave the indulgence of the House. He should not pretend to say, that he was entitled to that indulgence from anv degree of regard which ought to be paid to the opinion which he had expressed, nor to the arguments which he might have ufed on that occafion, but from the liberty which he conceived every Member of the House enjoyed, of delivering his real sentiments with every degree of freedom. He was entitled to fav, let the fallacy of such opinion let the weakness of such arguments be proved. Let them be proved to be the effect of a desponding imagination, before any Member should offer his sentiments with such freedom relative to the opinion delivered by another. Were his opinion really found to proceed from despondency, he protested it would give him the moft heartfelt satisfaction. Colonel Craufurd was proceeding still farther to express his real feelings with regard to the situation of the country, when The Secretary at Iar rose to speak to order. He said, he


observed that the hon. Member was about to enter into cer. tain military details ; on which account he should beg leave to move the enforcement of the standing order of the House, for the exclusion of strangers.

Strangers were accordingly excluded for the remainder of the evening, and the House continued debating upon the bill, which was read a third line.

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FRIDAY, JULY I. Two returned bills were brought up from the House of Commons by Sir John Frederick, and were presented by the Secretary at War, Mr. Graham, General Gascoyne, Lord Folk stone, and others, and read a first time.

The bills on the table passed a stage each. , Lord Pelham laid an order of council on the table, 1

ARMY OF RESERVE BILL. Lord Hobart moved, that this bill be read a first time; it was read accordingly; after which his Lordship moved that it be read a second tiine the nexe day. · Lord Rawdon (Earl of Moira) suggested, that it would add much to the convenience of the House, if it were understood generally, that the debale upon the principle of the bill was, not to take place the next day, but that the principle was to be discussed on the report, and that the noble Lords in the Committee would merely move such amendments, as the detail of the bill and its various ramifications might suggest to them as necessary, without touching at all upon

the principle of the bill.

Lord Mulgrave thought, that in passing a bill of so much importance, not a moment was to be wasted unnecessarily, and therefore, perhaps, it would be better 10 take the deba'e on the principle the next day, and by that means avoid the having the double debate, that in the Committee, and that on the report, in one and the same day. If the latter course were felt more convenient, it would be neceffary for some noble Lord 10 inove, what had been often moved in cases of emergency, that the standing order, forbidding that the noble Lord on the woollack, for the time being, ihould put more than one question on any stage of a bill in one day, should be suspended. He wished to hear from the authority of the noble and learned Lord on the woolfack, what would be the molt advisable mode of proceeding, Lord Hobart rose to explain that it was the wish of


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his Majesty's Ministers to read the bill a second time the next day, to go into the Committee upon it on Monday, report it the same day, and read it a third time on Tuesó

. The Lord Chancellor left the woollack so remind their Lord. ships, that they ought not to make themselves quite sure, that they should be able to read the bill a third time on Tuesday. If, as had been done in a late instance (the clergy residence bill) noble Lords should chuse to stay away from the Committee, and afterwards, on the report, come down, and debate the amendments, which might (as was the cale ther-) have undergone a moft elaborate and minute discussion, give the House the trouble to debate them over again, one by one, no man knew when the bill might reach a third reading. There were iwo obvious courses to pursue, in the present instance--the standing order, that no bills should pass two stages on one day, was imperative upon him, or the person, whoever he might be, who fat on the woollack. He could not disobey ir without an absolute dereli&tion of his duly. To remove his difficulty, any noble Lord might move the suspension of the standing order, but there must be two days' potice given, before the suspension could be moved. The other course of proceeding was what would be most disgraceful to the House, viz. 10 order him to put a question, on a second stage of the bill, in defiance of their own standing order, the fame being suffered to remain on the page of their oriler-book.

Lord Rawdor (Earl of Moira) faid, what he had suggested arose from a sense of general convenience to the House. Saturday was not a day on which the House generally fat, many noble bords might not be present, and, if the debate on the principle took place the next day, might afterwards think they were fighted, or complain of being taken by surprise.

Lord Pelham said a few words in support of the noble Lord's argument, Thewing that it would be extremely convenient io wave the discussion of the principle of the bill till the report.

Lord Mulgrave, after a little explanation, gave notice, that he should on Monday move, that the two ftanding or ders, which refer to the progress of bills through the House, be suspended,



FRIDAY, JULY 1. Mr. Fonblanque presented a petition, on the part of Sir Thomas Turton, agaiolt the return of George Tierney, Elg. for the borough of southwark. The petition stated, that the filling member had committed several acts of bribery and corruption, and had, by undue influence, prevented vores being pub.ed that ought to have been received ; and that, upon the sc niny, he had induced the parish clerks to withhold the parish books, by which many of his bad votes would have been detected. The perition was ordered to be taken into coulideration on the 24th of August.

A new writ was ordered for Tiverton, in Devonshire, in the room of the right hon. Dudley Ryder, now Lord Harrow by • The report of the Bell Rock light-house was received, and ordered to be printed.

A' message from the Lords informed the House, their Lordships had agreed to the Irish Parlonage House bill.

CLERGY RESIDENCE BILL. * The order of the day was moved for the further cona. deration of the clergy residence bill.

: Sir William Scott stated, that, in consequence of the late. bill having been loft, a number of penal actions had been brought upon the statute of Henry VIII. for non-residence ; it' was therefore of the utmost importance that the present bill fhould be forwarded with as much expedition as porSible.

The bill was re-committed. The report was received, and the bill was ordered to be read a third time next day.

WOOLLEN CLOTHIERS' BILL. 1. Mr. Dickinson moved, that the woollen clothiers' bill should be now read'a third time.

Mr. Brookes moved, that the words, “ three months": hould be substituted for the word “ now,

Mr. Hurst expreffed himself friendly to the present bill. It was founded on the free spirit of trade and commerce, that the old Natures from Richard II. to George II. should be repealed. They had been enacted on the then exilling fate of the 'trade, and were totally unnecessary at present. He observed, that one year's apprenticeship was sufficient for a lad


who was capable of learning his business. There were sufficient hands already to work ihe machinery, and the num. bers ought not to be increased while soldiers were wanted for the ariny, and sailors for the navy. Surely if these could be. Spared for any purpose of industry, those employed in agriemliure were most in request. He thought the flatutes-books, had been well cleared of the rubbish with which they had been filled upon this subject; they were of no service, but 10. give practice to attornies, who were but too ready to take advantage of them.' He was decidedly in favour of the bill.

Mr. Peter Moore faid, he opposed the bill for the same reasons the hon. Gentleman supported it. It seemed to be considered, that there were only two parties concerned in the measure, but he conceived there was a third, whose in., terefts were material. He referred to that period of the fixe teenth century at which the woollen trade had been intro duced into this country, and contended that it had been ow. ing to the fystem of apprenticelhip we owed its prosperity: He lupported his opinion by reference to the sentiments of Dr. Adam Smith. It was, he said, a productive system, that yielded 24,000,000l. to the country. He objected to the rea peal of the old laws, unless better ones were substituted for them. He thought it was a subject of great importance to the ftate.

Mr. Brookes said, he hoped the soldiers and failors that were wanted, would be provided by more constitutional means than taking them froin our manufactures.

Mr. I. Hawkins Brown proposed that this should be merely a bill of experiment, and that it should be limited to iwa. years; if this was agreed to), he thould give his vote for the measure.

Mr. Wilberforce also wilhed for some compromise; he had not brought his mind to a conclusion, but he was rather inclined to its being a bill of experiment.

Admiral Zerkeley supported the measure ; he entreated the House to pass the bill, observing, that if it was not passed, they might be persuaded, from what had been said relative to The clergy bill, how merciful the attornies would be; there would no doubt be an hundred actions.

With regard to regulations, the work men should find hiin as zealous in fupporting those for their benefit, as for their masters. He did not find that any regulations whatever were introduced, consequently he was for the bill going on.


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